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1 Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:28 am

todosan


Folks, there is a huge choice coming for us all. We will either see the world events as light or darkness, but it will depend on our spiritual disposition.

Last night at 3:13 am I was wide awake and the Lord began to speak many things to me. I took the following notes as best I could, word for word.
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We will begin to see evil exposed on all levels from the corporate to the personal. Many evil plans will be fouled before they occur.

God’s provision will begin to replace the provision of man, and God’s provision will be greater.

Many healings long awaited for will begin to take place. The suffering will be surpassed by greater and greater glory.

A schism will now develop between light and darkness. They will no longer be intermingled, but the distinction will be clear. His Holy Ones will be revealed by way of this.

Many sons will be called forth out of darkness and they will take their proper place at His banqueting table. These are those whom the world is not worthy to receive.

An acceleration will increase in the Spirit. Time will become less important as people turn to the works of the Lord. They will become enamored with Him, and this focus will consume them by the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming.

Hostility will cease amongst His people and growth will escalate.

Families will grow together like threads in a tapestry. They will be, being restored. The assaults on the Families in God will come to naught and the world’s families will be provoked to jealousy.



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2 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:57 am

todosan


SO I am going to post something from Rick Joyner next. This rings a bell for me. One time I was visiting Kevin in Wisconsin and his message was the fullness of time. Amazing that I rememberd, huh Kev?

BUT I DID! and it went something like this:

In the fullness of time, they were all gathered TOGETHER.

It was because the time had transpired, that the mandate had come. It was because it was time.... thus the Spirit had gathered them ...

So I do not need to elaborate, but I do not take this gathering here lightly.

Ok, so please enjoy Rick's post next... I think it is very interesting.

One thing the Lord spoke to me many years ago was that a billion souls would be swept into the Kingdom in the time we were coming to. He confirmed this word very strongly. Since then, I have really sought a balance for words that came along about what it will be like in the days ahead. As for me, I believe Someone died and left me something and I am going to possess it.



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3 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:58 am

todosan


The Fullness of Time

MorningStar Prophetic Bulletin #73

Rick Joyner

The world is now in the Valley of Decision. The consequences of every decision will be magnified and a little turn can lead to strikingly different destinations. This kind of repercussion for our choices has not been seen since the Garden. This is because the world is getting very close to becoming the Garden again-the kingdom of God is at hand.

Because of this, it will be the time of the greatest darkness for those who do not love the truth, but the time of the greatest glory for those who do. The response to this by those who do not have true faith will be to think negatively about the Valley of Decision, becoming fearful and timid. For those who have faith, the reverse is true. This is the greatest opportunity of all, when our positive choices will do far greater good. Even a small decision to do what is right in the sight of the Lord could spark a great revival. A subtle turning in the direction toward the Lord by a nation can begin a Great Awakening.

We have examples of this in history. When a humble, black housemaid named Rosa Parks stood on her convictions and refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white man, it sparked the Civil Rights Movement that changed a nation. Who could have foreseen such consequences from this one little action? Such is the result of it being "the fullness of time" for civil rights in America to include all of its citizens. As we see in even the Old Testament prophets, the Lord deals with nations concerning righteousness and justice. The wood had become so dry for the Civil Rights Movement in America that even a tiny spark could set it ablaze.

One of the great factors making this time so opportune is that it is so dry spiritually. Just a little spark and a little breeze from the Holy Spirit and great fires of revival will begin blazing. Those who complain about the dryness of the times do not have vision. We have come to the time when even a seemingly insignificant prophetic word from an unknown prophet can set worldwide events in motion. The fullness of time means the times are full of potential. We should be rejoicing that it has become so dry!

The harvest that Jesus said would be the end of this age is "the fullness of time," for many such sparks will ignite many revivals. Once ignited, these fires will spread even faster because of the dryness. Some will ignite before the end of this year, and next year there will be many more.

There also will be magnified consequences to evil choices. The harvest is when all of the seeds, both the wheat and the tares, come to full maturity. This is why we see in Isaiah 60 that when darkness is covering the earth and deep darkness the people, the glory of the Lord will be revealed in His people. We are entering the ultimate battle between light and darkness, between good and evil. After this conflict, all will be able to see clearly what both good and evil are. Now we are in a time when many are calling good evil and evil good, honoring the dishonorable and dishonoring the honorable, but that will change. This is only exposing the wheat from the tares. As we see in the Gospels, the tares are the first to be plucked out of the earth, and that time is coming.

In Isaiah 60:3, we see that the result of this clash between light and darkness will be that the whole world will come to the light. Ultimately, the light is going to win every confrontation with evil. Even a small light can be seen much farther in great darkness. Light is going to prevail, regardless of what it may look like for a time. Now is the time to choose the light and resolve that we will only walk in the way of the light. Now is the time to let our light shine boldly.

Now is the time to establish in our hearts that evil is what God says it is, not man, and good is what God says it is, not man. Those who do not speak according to the Word of God do not have the light, and they are not of the light but are in darkness. Now is the time when all are in the Valley of Decision, determining who they will follow.



Seize the Day

Great people are rarely recognized on earth in their own times, but only after they have passed and are no longer a threat. Then the living will lament, having not appreciated them more or listened to them better. The same is often true of great times and great opportunities. Only a few have the vision to see them early. The source of the greatness of the great ones is that they see and understand their times, and they seize the opportunity. Now is the greatest time there has ever been to walk with God, to stand for His truth, and to preach His gospel. Now the consequences, the fruit, will be magnified.

Great spiritual movements are often referred to as waves of the Holy Spirit because they move like waves of the ocean. To ride a wave requires balance and skill, but those would not matter if one did not also have the ability to discern where the wave is going to break and get into position at the right place and time. Even then, the wave rider cannot be idle but must be moving in the right direction when the wave comes.

One reason so many Christians have been repositioned in recent times is because the Holy Spirit is helping them get into position to catch the spiritual waves they are called to ride. There is a great wave of the Holy Spirit that is about to move across the entire earth, but it is still crucial for every individual to be in the place that they have been called.

The Holy Spirit is omnipresent, so we may think that it does not make a difference if we are in a specific location, but it can make all the difference in the world for us. The Lord Jesus appeared to more than five hundred people after His resurrection, and He instructed them to go and wait for the promise of the Father in Jerusalem. Three hundred and eighty did not wait long enough and missed the first outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

Hopefully those who were of the three hundred eighty received this promise later through the church, but we do not know for sure. Certainly the Lord is gracious, but as the Apostle Paul warned, we must behold both His kindness and His severity. God resists the proud, and it is the pride that caused the fall in the first place, which has us thinking we do not need to obey the Lord, but rather we can attain by our own means.

We are told in Hebrews 6:12 to be imitators of those who through "faith and patience inherit the promises." Waiting forty days in Jerusalem did require patience, and it sifted out those who did not have it. Impatience is not a fruit of the Spirit and those who are led by their impatience will not be led by the Spirit. Three hundred and eighty did not fully obey the Lord, and they missed Him on the Day of Pentecost. Being in the right place is one of the telltale signs that we live our lives in obedience to the Lord. He told us not to call Him "Lord" if we do not do what He says. Only those who follow Him, obeying Him as Lord, will be in the right place at the right time to receive what is promised.

Impatience is a main reason why some never receive their promises. Another reason why opportunities, great movements, and visitations of the Lord are missed by so many is that their vision is clouded by the affairs of everyday life. Few are able to pull themselves away from the clamor of their lives to climb up to a place of vision where they can see with His eyes. This is why the Lord rebuked those who could perceive the signs of impending weather better than the signs of the times. The weather affected their everyday lives, and this is what they had most of their attention on. To discern the purposes of the Lord, they have to be our main focus. We must truly "seek first the kingdom" in order to see its coming.


The "Sons of Issachar"

When the strength of King David's forces was recorded in I Chronicles 12:32, we have a unique and remarkable group listed: "And of the sons of Issachar, men who understood the times, with knowledge of what Israel should do." For many years, I prayed for the Lord to raise up those with these gifts for our times. I felt that this inability to know the timing of what we were seeing was one of the greatest weaknesses in the prophetic ministries today. I also knew that in the times to come, this ability would be crucial. Seven years ago, I was shown that such last-day "sons of Issachar" would be raised up, and they would receive this anointing the way that the sons of Issachar did, which is recorded in Genesis 49:14-15:

"Issachar is a strong donkey, lying down between the sheepfolds.

"When he saw that a resting place was good and that the land was pleasant, he bowed his shoulder to bear burdens, and became a slave at forced labor."

In prophetic symbolism, the shoulder represents authority because "the government will rest upon His shoulders." I was given an invitation to pursue this anointing and shown how to do it. I would have to lay aside growing in authority and influence with people, and instead become a slave and do what others did not want to do. I would have to go through a second seven-year period when I would be given very little prophetic revelation, but instead I would be given hard labor to do. I would have to leave the high place I had in the mountains and go back into the valley to the city to embrace hard labor. I think it was the hardest thing I have ever done, and I had the choice, but I also had the promise that it would be worth it.

One of my assignments was to begin restoring the Heritage USA property. This property had brought reproach upon the entire body of Christ, and we would have to bear this reproach to be associated with it. At that time, this property had been vacant for seven years and looked like it had deteriorated beyond where it could be restored. However, I was shown that one day this property would be a worldwide testimony of God's power of redemption. It has not fully become this yet, but we have made progress, and it will become a marvel to the world in due time.

The work has been hard, and the reproach we've had to take on at times has been hard, but it has been worth it. Now it is the most wonderful home we could have ever dreamed of having for our ministry. The best part was being joined by so many noble souls who had the vision for this and were willing to work or contribute to it.

I am not claiming that the sacrifice I made to come down out of the mountains was that great. It has been hard at times, but there has also been too much joy for me to think of it as a sacrifice. In truth, there is no greater freedom than we can ever know than to be Christ's slave. Even the "hard labor" in Christ leads to rest and refreshing when we take His yoke. It is always better to choose the highest purpose. So I am not claiming to have done anything that hard or great, but rather the results have been greater for me.

Then I was instructed to help restore people that no one else wanted to restore. To do this we would also have to bear reproach and attacks just like Nehemiah did when he sought to rebuild the walls around Jerusalem. However, people are more important than buildings, and even though this would hurt my reputation, to receive the authority with God requires that we, like Him, are willing to "become of no reputation." Even so, there is possibly no greater way to gain the favor of God than to help His people whom no one else wants to help. The favor of God is far better than our reputation with men.


The Dream of Favor

In 1989, I was given a dream in which one of my children had fallen into a sewage ditch and could not get up. A large crowd gathered around my child just to ridicule and scorn as he struggled in that terrible filth. As a father, my grief was unbearable, but in the dream I could do nothing. Then a man pushed through the crowd, reached down and helped my child up, got him clean, and on his way again. My appreciation for this man was unlimited. If I could have given him all that I owned, it would not have been enough. Then I heard the voice of the Lord in my dream saying, "Jim Bakker is My child. Will you help him?"

At that time, Jim Bakker was possibly the most scorned and ridiculed person on the planet. I knew the Father felt just like I did watching my child struggle while people scorned and ridiculed him. Even though I was dreaming, I think this was the worst feeling I have ever had. When I woke up, I knew that to relieve the Father of what He was feeling for Jim Bakker was worth any price I had to pay. I also had it implanted in my spirit that there is no greater way to gain the favor of God than to help His children who no one else wants to help.

Since then, I have considered it a mandate to help Jim in any way that I can. I also think it is one of the great opportunities to help any of His children that I can who have fallen. Still, I can't help them all, but only the ones He shows me. I count this as one of the most important things I can do.

I do not mean to imply that this is something I am very good at. I often think I may be the worst one at this, and that the Lord's people deserve someone who can do it much better, but I do think it is the greatest honor I can have and do try my best. If I was to leave this life today, I would consider that I have already been rewarded many times over what I deserved for the little I did give. I am sharing this now for your sake. If you want to gain the Father's favor, help His people. If you want to receive the greatest favor, help those no one else is willing to help. The more unpopular it is to help them, or the harder it is, the more of His favor you will receive. As Tommy Tenney once said to us, "One moment of the favor of God is worth a lifetime of effort." This is true.

It may be the greatest wisdom to help God's people who are struggling, but even if we were to receive nothing, the Father deserves this. When the world rebelled against Him, He did not condemn us, but sent His own Son to redeem and restore us, even when we were still in our sin. Those who have His heart, who are truly spiritual, are like Him, always looking to restore (see Galatians 6:1), not condemn. When He walked the earth, consider how much patience He had with sinners and how little patience He had with the self-righteous.

Restoring was the main labor I was called to do to receive the "sons of Issachar" anointing. I am sure others have been called to pursue this too because there will be a great company with this gift in the coming times. Their call to hard labor may have been different than mine, but I do know that most had to bear great hardship and reproach, going through a long period of being humbled and made "of no reputation." That will be a hallmark of the true leaders who are to come.

As the Apostle Paul spoke of how the apostles were considered to be the "dregs of the earth," this is a hallmark for the true apostolic ministry God is about to release. They may not be very well-known on earth, but they will be very well-known in heaven. Many who are considered the dregs of the earth are kings and princes in heaven. When the kingdom comes, those who have been lifted up here will be humbled, and those who have embraced humility here will be lifted up.

Many people write to tell me how sorry they are for all of the attacks that I receive. I appreciate their concern, but this is actually a part of my reward. We get more "martyr points" when we receive reproach for doing the will of God. After the apostles had been beaten and threatened for doing what they were called to do, they went out rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for the sake of the Lord. They understood the true riches of the kingdom. This is why it was said of Moses:

"By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;

choosing rather to endure ill-treatment with the people of God, than to enjoy the passing pleasures of sin;

considering the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures of Egypt; for he was looking to the reward (Hebrews 11:24-26)."

Consider how Moses chose affliction rather than pleasure and considered the reproach of Christ greater riches than all the treasures of Egypt. Moses could see, and as we are told in the next verse, "he endured, as seeing Him who is unseen" (Hebrews 11:27). Do we see? Can we see what others cannot see? Those who see, like Elisha, can have an entire army coming after them and sit in perfect peace because they can see that those who are with us are much greater than those who are against us. This vision is available to us now.

Those who see the true treasures of the kingdom know that all of the treasures in this world are not worth as much as a single grain of sand in the kingdom. When we see, we will feel like the Apostle Paul-that all of the things we may have given up here are but rubbish. The favor of the Lord that we have experienced has already been much more than I could have ever dreamed, and much more of His favor is coming. His generosity knows no bounds, and He rewards many times over what we ever deserve.


A Clear Trumpet Sound

I do not mean to boast, but even if I am, I am doing it for a purpose. From 1980 to 1987, I went through a seven-year period where I received almost no prophetic revelation, but at the end of this, I received a two-and-a-half-day prophetic experience that was the greatest revelation I had ever received. It became a trumpet call heard throughout the world when a brief of it was circulated as, "A Vision of the Harvest." When I completed the book on this revelation, The Harvest, it became a #1 bestseller in many nations and remains one of our top distributors twenty-five years later. It has proven true.

Most of what I was shown in that vision has now come to pass, but the biggest and most important event in that vision is still to come-the harvest that is the end of the age. I was shown two waves that composed this harvest, both of which would be the biggest the world had ever seen, but the second was far more so than the first. The first wave began just a couple of years after I had the vision and lasted for more than a dozen years. It was estimated that more people came to Christ during that move than had come to Him from the original Day of Pentecost until that time. Whole nations were transformed, and at its peak, it was estimated that as many as 475,000 people a day were coming to the Lord around the world. However, it virtually missed North America and Western Europe. Now our time has come.

I was shown a time of relative spiritual quiet between this first wave and a much bigger one that was coming after it. This quiet time would last a few years, and we needed to use it to prepare the laborers for the coming much greater ingathering that would mark the end of this age. Last year I began to receive warnings that this great wave would soon be upon us, and that we were not ready. We had not used this time wisely to get ready for the next wave.

I was shown that this next wave would come like a tsunami. When a tsunami approaches, the ocean waters recede. I was shown that it would look like Christianity was in retreat around the world just before the greatest move of all time broke upon the earth. I was told that when we see this happening, we must not chase after the sea, the people, but we must get to the high ground. That "high ground" is to be seated with Christ in the heavenly places, not just doctrinally, but in reality united with Him and His authority. I will have more to say about this momentarily.

After the first seven-year period ended and I received the vision of the harvest, it seemed to open a floodgate of prophetic revelation for me that just kept getting better. Then I was given the promise of the "sons of Issachar" anointing and began another seven-year period of almost no prophetic revelation. I am now within weeks of the end of this second seven-year period. In July, I was given a foretaste of what is coming in a series of dreams. In some ways, these were the most exciting dreams I have ever had. I was also told that after the first seven-year prophetic wilderness I went through, I was given a vision of the harvest, but after this one, I would see the harvest itself-the fulfillment of the vision.

I was also given some insight into the kind of authority that would be released to those who had made it to the high ground, to be seated with Christ in the heavenly places. This high ground was also the top of the mountain that I had been shown before and wrote about in my book, The Final Quest. Unprecedented authority is about to be given to those who have been faithful and obedient. The following are just a few things we can expect just from the prophetic ministry:

o Prophets will be raised up who will have a permanent place in the presence of the Lord and access to all of His plans and secrets.

o Prophets will be raised up to do exploits that eclipse anything done under the Old Testament prophets, including Moses and Elijah.

o This was to demonstrate that the New Covenant really is "a better covenant."

o Some will tell literal mountains to be plucked up and cast into the sea, and this will be done to prove that the Lord's Word is true.

o Some will be used to unravel a thousand years of the enemy's strategy and dominance over a nation, which they will do with a single prophetic word, setting multitudes free in a day.

o Some will have authority over all natural laws such as gravity, time, space, and mass, demonstrating the authority of the kingdom of heaven over all earthly authority.

o This would even make the Jews jealous so that they would pursue the Lord like they had not done since they were in Egypt.

o There will be companies of prophets that no enemy can hide their plans or their secrets from, and these will constantly thwart the attacks of the enemy and those who serve him.

o There will not be a major event that happens on the earth that God's prophets do not foresee.

o There will be companies of "sons of Issachar" who know the timing of coming events and have words of wisdom about what God's people are to do to be prepared for them.

o The counsel of these "sons of Issachar" will be sought by the most influential of this world, but it will be more important for them to serve the least of God's people than the mighty of this world. They will help leaders of this present age, but their main devotion will be to the future leaders of the coming kingdom.

o Some of God's people will be given authority over every disease and affliction of man.

o Food and other resources being multiplied will become a common occurrence.

o Counsels between God's people and angels will be common and expected.

o Every great thing in Scripture was but the seed of what we will now see as a harvest. Even the first century church was but a seed of what the church will become.

o The Lord Himself will be so close to His people that He will be loved far above any gift or power by His people.

I have witnessed many great things in the Lord, but what I saw in these dreams was greater than what I had ever imagined that we would see on the earth. The "greater works" that the Lord said would be done in His name are much greater than I had ever considered. I should have known-the Lord always exceeds what we can ask or think. We are heading into the most exciting times there has ever been to walk with God.

Hear the Call of the Trumpet

The Lord has saved His best wine for last. The greatest move of God that has ever come upon the earth is very close. For those who have given up much to pursue the purposes of the Lord, now their reward is near.

Others have been distracted during the dry times. Like the remnant who returned to rebuild the temple of the Lord, after the foundation was laid, they got discouraged and went off to build their own houses. Like Haggai and Zechariah, prophets will arise to call them back to the work, and the work on the house of the Lord will be finished. Even many who have fallen away from the faith will come back.

In James 3:2 we are told that, "we all stumble in many ways." There has only been One who has not fallen to sin. In Galatians 6:7 we are told, "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap." If we want to receive mercy, we need to sow mercy every chance we get. If we want to receive grace, we need to sow it every chance we get.

Proverbs 24:16 says, "A righteous man falls seven times, and rises again." Our falls do not displease Him as much as our getting back up and pressing on pleases Him. This is not to imply that our falling pleases Him-it does not. However, He knows that the faith it takes to get back up and continue on after a fall can be the greatest faith, and faith pleases Him.

Many have fallen in the same way that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob fell. When it got dry, they left the land they had been promised and turned to Egypt for their sustenance. It ultimately led to the bondage of their whole family. God let this happen so that they could taste the pain of their bondage, and be willing to pay the price to pursue His promises. When they cried to Him, He delivered them. Regardless of what you have gotten yourself into, He will deliver you if you will call upon Him.

Israel's deliverance was not easy because it took much longer to get the Egypt out of them than it did to get them out of Egypt. Even so, He brought them into their Promised Land, and He will bring us into ours. If you are alive today, you were called to serve the Lord in the greatest move of God that has ever been upon the earth. Get free and get in your place.

The last few years have been exceedingly dry prophetically for many of God's people. Because He has not said as much to us does not mean that He has not been close to us. Even so, this spiritual dryness caused many to turn away from their purpose and become occupied with other things to seek fulfillment. For those who remained faithful, doing the work they were called to, the reward will soon come, and it will be great. For those who drifted, have the wisdom of the prodigal. For those who did not drift, but remained faithful, let us not become like the older brother, but rejoice at the return of the prodigals for the sake of the joy our Father has in this.
We are entering the fullness of times. The kingdom of God is at hand.

4 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:52 am

Long2JC

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Dear Brothers and Sister,

Please take what Todd has released with extreme seriousness.

I haven’t read the posting he placed from Rick Joyner because I didn’t what to leave the thoughts regarding Todd’s release.

I cannot believe that I do not havce time to finish what I need to express. I have an appointment that I have to keep. Please bear with me until I can finish.

5 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:12 pm

Hibbs


May I make a humble suggestion?

Sometimes we copy an entire post into our reply and add a line or two. It result in many more pages in the thread than would otherwise be the case. I was interested in this thread and wanted to make a hard copy to take with me and chew on and printed 16 pages when about 9 would have covered the material. Rather than turning pages that we don't need, would it be possible to confine our copy of other posts to just significant words to comment upon? It would help me in my feeble attempts to stay abreast of the forum (which I dearly appreciate) and still have time for the other things that call.

6 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:18 pm

LindaY


Sure, no problem. I'll delete the quote. Smile

7 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:30 pm

Hibbs


Thanks Linda....much love.

8 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:02 pm

LindaY


Very Happy Ditto

9 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:49 pm

Hibbs


Linda;

I read what you wrote (on the hard copy) and it was good...where did it go? I was only having a problem with re-reading the prior post.

10 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:18 pm

Long2JC

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Dear Brothers and Sister, I can conitue my thoughhts now.

Please take what Todd has released with extreme seriousness.

I haven’t read the posting he placed from Rick Joyner because I didn’t what to leave the thoughts regarding Todd’s release.

“An acceleration will increase in the Spirit. Time will become less important as people turn to the works of the Lord. They will become enamored with Him, and this focus will consume them by the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming.”

I regards to “time” we need to be in a place in our personal relationship with the Lord that when He moves on this earth we will not be frozen by awe or fear and find that we can do nothing but look at what’s happening. We will need to be confident enough in our personal relationship with the Lord to do the things He will ask us to do.

In Matthew 6:34 we find Jesus speaking “So do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.” If you apply this verse to the concept I posted regarding the two paths. One in natural reality and the other from the spiritual reality of the same moment in time you can see why is so important that the two remain in sync from our side. When one gets ahead or behind (or out of alignment) then there is confusion until the alignment is restored. On the spiritual realm where time doesn’t exist as we understand time, (hence a year is as a thousand days and a thousand days as a year) our concept of time can be compressed or expanded. So something that we would think could never be changed or could take years to change can happen in a moments time. Here again it by our being at rest in our relationship with the Lord that these things can take place without causing us turmoil or taking us by surprise to the point where we cannot move.


“God’s provision will begin to replace the provision of man, and God’s provision will be greater.”

“Many healings long awaited for will begin to take place. The suffering will be surpassed by greater and greater glory.”

“Families will grow together like threads in a tapestry. They will be, being restored. The assaults on the Families in God will come to naught and the world’s families will be provoked to jealousy.”


These are all factors of His Provision. One area to note is the last part of the last sentence.
"the world’s families will be provoked to jealousy

The jealousy will come from their lack of ability to control the situations around them, from the turning upside down of what they believe to be just and unjust by their own standards and the fact that they do not have what they feel they need to support their lifestyle while someone else has all that they need that shouldn’t be able to afford it. This strife will hit the heaviest populated areas first, the east and west coast. The population will then start to migrate to areas they see as not being in as much turmoil, Middle America.

Be careful to seek the Lord’s guidance if you feel that you should be stock piling supplies to see you through this period. First you will not be able to stockpile enough to see you through. Secondly you might not know what God’s provision will be so you could have the wrong stuff. Thirdly, the more that you have, the more other people will want to have it. I know that there are ministry areas around the country that are being led to assemble quantities of goods for specific purposes. There are also as many ideas on what to do or not to do in preparation. Rest in the Lord as what He is or is not asking you to do, He will not forsake you. Remember that Todd shared that God's provision will repalce man's provision.

“They will become enamored with Him, and this focus will consume them by the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming.”

As this happens, multitudes, both Christian and non-Christian,will be searching for answers to their questions. Will you be in a place for the Lord to use you to answer them? (given the fact that you are participating in the forum I would venture that the yes answer would be correct.)

The bottom line to all that Todd has shared comes down to the same thing, our personal, intimate relationship with our Lord and Father. This relationship should have the fruit of rest and peace in the midst of turmoil. If you feel that you are not in these places just continue to move forward in your relationship with Him. The Holy Spirit will lead you into the place of peace and rest. You may not know that it is there within you until the time comes when it is needed.

I envision a person’s spiritual growth like a tree. It starts out small planted in a green pasture by a slow moving peaceful river. As it grows, it becomes larger, puts on more branches, grows fruit and provides a covering for those around it. As it continues to grow in hunger, it’s roots reach deeper into the soil for nourishment and when the soil no longer can provide the nourishment for the spiritual hunger, it’s roots break through the bottom of the soil into the river, the River of Life.

It is wonderful to be able to speak freely about the things laid upon my heart and know that they will not just be blown away because they have nowhere to take root.

11 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:31 pm

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Hi Mark,

I messed up when deleting. It's no problem though. I had to leave today and was in a hurry but, it's all good. Smile

12 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:15 pm

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Long2JC wrote:It is wonderful to be able to speak freely about the things laid upon my heart and know that they will not just be blown away because they have nowhere to take root.

AS IS with most prophetic utterances, I am not sure people know how to interact or add to. I am glad you posted what you did.

Tonight the Lord is laying on my heart more about the laying up of provision. There is a real tendency to put things back for when things come off the rails. Most of that behavior is based in fear, BUT I have learned that for a small price you can put some of those fears to bed. For $20 or so, you can buy a bag of rice and stop fretting over what you will do in the craziness that lay just ahead. Yes, it is in fear. NO, there is no condemnation if you do such things like buy rice.

I had to walk through all that. I have had a lot of extra canned goods. LOL ! and I gave alot away to food banks and the food runs at work, and I am very pleased to do so. Was my heart motivation not right? Yep, it was fearful. Now, the tendency to provide for self is much less. I stil have concerns, but the compulsion is gone becuase I have been walking through it all with the Lord.

So how about today's word? Everyone is deciding where their provision will come from. It is a personal choice. If you determine that you must live by the sword, you must provide for yourself by the sword. If you decide to be a stacker, the stacking must become your provision. But if you decide that the Lord is your provider, then you have come to Jehova Jireh, my provider. Of course all natural provision is limited, however, the Lord has no limit. By this each man is judged by his or her own judgement. There will be no victims per say and all shall receive what they believed for.

I have a few coins that they might be mutiplied. I have a few cans of corn and beans, that they might be multiplied in the hour of need. Even so, I am not fooled. I ask God to tell me my heart. Do I trust in anything more than Him? Oh! I want to, but I spend time each day going back to basics. The flesh wants to be strong in its own strength, but the Spirit is able and willing to overcome the flesh.

When I was worried about not having enough rice, I couldn't pray for fear of not having enough rice. I went to the store and bought a bag of rice the next day. Then I was able to pray in peace. The Lord then said to me, "Todd, do you have enough rice?" I said, "God, I have never seen you make rice out of nothing. Please help my unbelief."

Now, after 50 times of repeating this silly experience, things are changing. I desire to be with Him more and more. If I do not have enough rice, I will be with Him sooner, but it better that I remain and fulfill His will. THEREFORE, there will be enough rice for now and for tomorrow. It is clear that we were all called for this time, therfore, Jehova Jireh will provide.

Just rambling... hope you enjoyed.

13 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:10 am

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I certainly enjoy your rambles, Todd, especially where concerns the wisdom that comes from experience. Yes, Jehovah is my jireh! I haven't stocked up, kinda waiting on those currencies to be diverted and then if He wills I'd love to put in for a nice little piece of land to raise some goats and fruit and a few vegetables. But not by my self. I envision a little community where everyone works (rests) according to their gifting. But most of all I envision Him telling us where He wants us as the time comes. That's the voice I want to hear, for yes, His provision is perfect.

What do you all make of this?

(Rev 13:10) If any man is for captivity, into captivity he goeth: if any man shall kill with the sword, with the sword must he be killed. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

I used to think I knew something of the time frame spoken of here, but am not so sure any more. And then the Lord put it on my heart when answering a dear friend--who has chosen a swordly life--that the word being translated captivity might better by rendered as hospitality. I can't find that meaning for αἰχμαλωσία in Strongs. Can this be? It sounded lovely to me, as it offered a clearly superior vs. inferior choice. My friend is one of those who says he is in a rush to go on and be with the Lord, so dying by the sword suits him. Beats atrophying in a concentration camp. Me, I like the hospitality option.

(Mat 5:41) And whosoever shall compel thee to go one mile, go with him two.

I was taught that during the Roman occupation of Palestine, the law stated that a jewish citizen must carry a soldier's burden one mile if so ordered. It was his obligatory duty. What Jesus teaches is it is during that second mile where the love is to be found. Don't you think you've got that soldier's attention when you're carrying his load and you don't have to? During the first mile you're just so much riff-raff to him, but during the second mile you might find that you have your brother's ear. Think about it...

14 Light or Darkness on Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:37 am

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So much of our experiences contribute to a place of faith and displace fear. I don't remember if it was on the forum or just in sharing with friends but we were talking about Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. Many times we hear about the faith of the three Hebrew children as they faced the fiery furnace. We all face fiery trials of some sort. In fact, I do not believe that we have the faith of God until we have gone through an impossible situation and found God faithful to deliver. The reply of the three was that: "Our God is able to deliver us but, if not, we still won't bow the knee." That is the state of most of our faith...God can do it. Once we find ourselves in the fire and find that the fourth man is there and really wasn't sleeping in the boat...God did it and our clothes don't even smell of smoke...i.e. our garments are linen and clean, not covered with the soot of burning flesh, then we have a faith that God has established.

I was the president of the law firm and my wife had her MBA and we were on our way to the world's success. Members at the yacht club, owned our home free and clear, owned a beautiful sailboat, had two beautiful children and our destiny seemed secure. That was BC 28 years ago. When I started giving and stopped drinking with clients, became active in church and started watching Ken Copeland and Charles Stanley on TV on Sunday night, life started to change in earnest. When I was confronted with a couple of demoniacs and started to hear from God, it was all together too much for my wife and she tried to commit me for treatment and then filed for divorce. Two weeks later my partners decided that they did not want me any longer and we divided the firm...I kept the Detroit office with the larger overhead and they kept the suburban office. They had already undermined my position with the clients and took all of our major accounts with them.

Long story short, boat's gone, house was given to her, ownership of firm is gone, yacht club gone, reputation gone (although God has restored some of that over the years...just not the former reputation) and outwardly I have been through one difficult situation after another. Today, however, my ex has lots of money and recently purchased a large five bedroom home in Grosse Pointe Shores (very expensive suburb where the Ford mansion is located) that she and her husband won't even occupy for at least two years. With investments, a large trust and substantial retirement benefits, it would be a simple matter to become envious and feel cheated. The reality, however is substantially different. Karen is stressed out over money and taxes, struggles with her health and arthritis, and is fearful and anxious about many things. While she has the money, medical insurance and property that I no longer have; I feel sorry for her especially considering the day in which we live and the things that are just over the horizon...and already on the scene if you have eyes to see. I have the peace that she cannot understand and a confidence in heaven's provision that has been tested and proven over the years. Fear and anxiety are not factors in my life and there is a trust and confidence in God and His love that I would not trade for all that I have lost along the way.

We are not of those who fear the day or the impending collapse of the financial system, or the mark of the beast or any of the devil's devices. We have come to know Him who is the Truth and that knowledge has made us free (and will keep us free if we keep our minds (heart) stayed upon Him). Our outward circumstance will not dictate to us since we listen to the voice of our Lord and hearken dilligently to that voice thus making us the head over circumstances and not the tail under. We have come to realize that the things that we thought we owned often become the stuff that owns us and that we don't need near what we used to think. It truly is a wonderful life.

Finally, we are coming to appreciate "How good and pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity." There is a provision and economy of scale in sharing and living in community that living alone can never accomplish. It takes a little more effort but causes us to grow in love and is well worth the effort. As we embrace community lifestyles the world will come to know us by the love that we have one for another and will envy us more than those with their homes in the Hamptons and all of the empty trappings of worldy success.

Written while David was posting.

15 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:00 am

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55.23 αἰχμαλωσία, ας f: the state of being taken as a prisoner of war and kept a captive—‘captivity.’ εἴ τις εἰς αἰχμαλωσίαν, εἰς αἰχμαλωσίαν ὑπάγει ‘if anyone is meant for captivity, he (will) go into captivity’ Re 13:10. In a number of languages it may be necessary to render ‘captivity’ in terms of ‘being a captive,’ and therefore this expression in Re 13:10 may be rendered as ‘if anyone is meant to become a captive, he will indeed become a captive.’

Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. (1996). Vol. 1: Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament: Based on semantic domains (electronic ed. of the 2nd edition.) (550). New York: United Bible Societies.


161. αἰχμαλωσία aichmalōsia, aheekh-mal-o-see´-ah; from 164; captivity:— captivity. Strong, J. (1996). The New Strong’s Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek Words. Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

The above is only man's definition of the word,αἰχμαλωσία. Like most of the words that we use in this realm, they fall short of God's intent.

16 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:48 am

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As I read and reread posts on this forum I have to stand in awe of everyone’s desire to lay down the opportunities this world has provided them to chase after the One who created them.

You have set aside the things temporal and offered all that you are to the One who can prepare you for eternity. As you have provided insight to, you realize that He is preparing you for far more than you could accomplish on your own. There is much work to be done in our realm and you have chosen to allow yourselves to be prepared, before things go crunch. Most will be taken by surprise and not prepared because they followed old traditions instead of trusting the Holy Spirit to lead them as an individual. There are so many patterns in the Old and New Testaments that seem to be constantly overlooked or not seen because they are read as stories that do not have application today. Even in this realm the spiritual is still, the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning, as it is in Heaven.

If we could only comprehend what time looks like in Heaven and how it is applied, it would make things so much clearer. But given our nature we would still mess it up.

The bottom line is that you have chosen to make yourself accountable in a world where we convince ourselves that if we follow someone or something else then that accountability is transfer to them.

It is my prayer that the Lord increases the clarity in what you see, what you hear, what you smell, what you taste and what you touch. I pray that your sensitivity to His voice increases with each passing moment and that He strengthens you to carry the things that He reveals to you.

Cherish the moment where He shares with you the things on His Heart just because you are His friend. The things that He is not asking you to do or share with anyone else. Just because He loves you as a friend and He rejoices in your company. Do not be anxious in His company, especially when He is just lying on the ground next to you watching the clouds go by or gazing at the stars. Listen how He sings over you a song that is only yours. Listen for when He calls you by name, for you are His chosen one.

And remember, whatever He may ask of you He will give you the provision to do it and He does not send you out alone then waits for you return when the task is completed. No, He always goes with you, for the both of you are a team, a team of four, You, The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost.

Blessings

17 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:01 am

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I wonder where I got hospitality out of this? Could captivity be a positive, if we are taken captive by a benevolent Power?

(2Co 10:5) casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ,

18 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:09 am

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Long2JC wrote:You have set aside the things temporal and offered all that you are to the One who can prepare you for eternity. . .

. . .And remember, whatever He may ask of you He will give you the provision to do it and He does not send you out alone then waits for you return when the task is completed. No, He always goes with you. . .

And now that I see your second post on the next page, John, I am reminded that captivity to Him is a good thing indeed! That is my choice.

19 Light or Darkness on Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:15 am

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G4863
συνάγω
sunagō
Thayer Definition:
1) to gather together, to gather
1a) to draw together, collect
1a1) of fishes
1a2) of a net in which they are caught
2) to bring together, assemble, collect
2a) to join together, join in one (those previously separated)
2b) to gather together by convoking
2c) to be gathered, i.e. come together, gather, meet
3) to lead with one’s self
3a) into one’s home, i.e. to receive hospitably, to entertain
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G4862 and G71

The word just prior to captivity suggests hospitality..."sunago" above. Our faith and patience...given the context is that those that want to be jailers will themselves be jailed and those that want to kill will themselves be killed...by what measure you mete etc. I believe that what the verses mean is that those that oppose God will find themselves opposed,,,not so much to destroy as to destroy the flesh and that one of the best ways to address some of these issues is to understand that Hamaan's gallows represented a jubilee...50 cubits. Hamaan will ultimately be destroyed on the very thing that he erects to bring others captive. If we seek to control, we will be controlled. If we seek to set others free, we will in turn be made free ourselves.

20 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:50 am

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So there you have it. When presented with two inferior choices, He draws our eyes upward! Thank you, Mark.

Hibbs wrote:So much of our experiences contribute to a place of faith and displace fear. . .

. . .Finally, we are coming to appreciate "How good and pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity." There is a provision and economy of scale in sharing and living in community that living alone can never accomplish. It takes a little more effort but causes us to grow in love and is well worth the effort. As we embrace community lifestyles the world will come to know us by the love that we have one for another and will envy us more than those with their homes in the Hamptons and all of the empty trappings of worldy success.

This is such a wonderful story that you share with us, Mark! I had no idea how much the Lord let you give up to be here. Yes, this is what it seems to take for us to truly be able to claim a lack of fear-motivation: we have been through hell already. And YES!!! Living in community is where we seem to be going with this.

(Gen 1:27) So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

The word for God in this verse is 'ĕlôhı̂ym and this has a plural connotation, as does 'âdâm which is the word used for man here. I will not be much surprised to discover that once we are able to see things as He does we will remember this as "So They created mankind in their image..." I don't know if this suggests a "trinity" or something even greater (the seven spirits of God, etc.), I haven't been able to come to a conclusion on the limits of His dimensions. But what it does speak to is relationship, for it is only when we get together that we truly reflect His glory, and relationship seems to be a critical element in understanding Him.

21 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:06 pm

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Quoted from John:
"It is my prayer that the Lord increases the clarity in what you see, what you hear, what you smell, what you taste and what you touch. I pray that your sensitivity to His voice increases with each passing moment and that He strengthens you to carry the things that He reveals to you.

Cherish the moment where He shares with you the things on His Heart just because you are His friend. The things that He is not asking you to do or share with anyone else. Just because He loves you as a friend and He rejoices in your company. Do not be anxious in His company, especially when He is just lying on the ground next to you watching the clouds go by or gazing at the stars. Listen how He sings over you a song that is only yours. Listen for when He calls you by name, for you are His chosen one.

And remember, whatever He may ask of you He will give you the provision to do it and He does not send you out alone then waits for you return when the task is completed. No, He always goes with you, for the both of you are a team, a team of four, You, The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost."

Oh, that this prayer, and many like it, will resound in each of our hearts and that we will pray one for another until He appears. I pray that this may be found true in each of our hearts, that the eyes of our understanding being enlightened, the we would know the hope of His calling and that the daystar will arise with healing in His wings within each of us...even so. Lord Jesus, even so.

22 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:13 pm

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I read all this and I see and believe what is about to happen in this world; the picture I understand is that the flood of water in the time of Noah was this world being baptized in water, and the next flood is on its way, that flood being that of God's Holy Spirit, this world is reserved for fire, that fire being His Spirit, it is the refining fire of our Father.

He has prepared us in advance for this, it is the sign of Jonah, being vomited out of the beast (world religion) we are seeing more and more people leaving the ways of men and we recognize it. God brings those He has taken out of the church and brings them alongside, for they hunger and thirst for the truth (I believe this to be a reference to the famine).

All physical things were created to understand the spiritual, the purpose of the spiritual is to understand the Father. We go from that which means nothing to that which means something to that which means everything.

These are just some of the things I have come to understand through His work in me. It may be said in different ways by another, but the Father can use many examples to show the same thing and that is simply because we are all different and we relate to an understanding by what we understand already. (Hope that made sense).

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23 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:28 pm

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DavidHarreld wrote:So there you have it. When presented with two inferior choices, He draws our eyes upward! Thank you, Mark.

Hibbs wrote:So much of our experiences contribute to a place of faith and displace fear. . .

. . .Finally, we are coming to appreciate "How good and pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity." There is a provision and economy of scale in sharing and living in community that living alone can never accomplish. It takes a little more effort but causes us to grow in love and is well worth the effort. As we embrace community lifestyles the world will come to know us by the love that we have one for another and will envy us more than those with their homes in the Hamptons and all of the empty trappings of worldy success.

This is such a wonderful story that you share with us, Mark! I had no idea how much the Lord let you give up to be here. Yes, this is what it seems to take for us to truly be able to claim a lack of fear-motivation: we have been through hell already. And YES!!! Living in community is where we seem to be going with this.

(Gen 1:27) So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

The word for God in this verse is 'ĕlôhı̂ym and this has a plural connotation, as does 'âdâm which is the word used for man here. I will not be much surprised to discover that once we are able to see things as He does we will remember this as "So They created mankind in their image..." I don't know if this suggests a "trinity" or something even greater (the seven spirits of God, etc.), I haven't been able to come to a conclusion on the limits of His dimensions. But what it does speak to is relationship, for it is only when we get together that we truly reflect His glory, and relationship seems to be a critical element in understanding Him.

David, how did I miss this post, that is how I've been seeing it for a long time. More than one, created All mankind in His image and His likeness through the Christ.

The first "man" here in Gen. 1:26...Is the Last Adam, (corporately).

And the man in the Garden who is second/last in scripture is the First.

The first shall be last and the last shall be first.

Blessings

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24 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:27 pm

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jugghead wrote:We go from that which means nothing to that which means something to that which means everything.

Get windshield time much, jugghead? Shocked

Yeah, your entire post made perfect sense to me, but then again I've spent many an hour alone out there on the road.

25 Re: Light or Darkness - You Decide on Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:38 pm

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Scherryl wrote:David, how did I miss this post, that is how I've been seeing it for a long time. More than one, created All mankind in His image and His likeness through the Christ.

The first "man" here in Gen. 1:26...Is the Last Adam, (corporately).

And the man in the Garden who is second/last in scripture is the First.

The first shall be last and the last shall be first.

Blessings

Well, YEAH! How did I skip past Gen 1:26 and go for 1:27 instead? DUHHH!

This says exactly what I was getting at:

Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

It is wonderful what you are seeing here, Scherryl! The Firstborn of all creation, then us, individually, to be restored by His death unto Him!

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