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1 2017 November on Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:52 pm

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"and the leaves of the tree ... for the healing of the nations" (Rev 22:2)

First off, in this verse the word "were" was added by the translators of the King James Version (KJV), hence the three periods (...). This word puts these two statements in the context of the past, which I do not believe it is how it should be understood.

When Christ says "the kingdom of God is at hand" (Mark 1:15) it is a reference to the present, which applies to today as much as it did then. If any word is to be added it should have been the word "are", denoting present tense because the Spirit of Christ is always present with us.

This part of the verse speaks of the "leaves", it is the main focus because the second part is stating the purpose of the "leaves". The purpose of the leaves is "for the healing of the nations".

When we look at a tree that is covered with leaves and by understanding that Christ is the "Tree of Life", would it not be reasonable to say that this is an example of the garment of Christ which can easily be understood as "the righteousness of Christ"? Because is not the righteousness of Christ for the purpose of healing? Healing us from our own unrighteousness?

When we go back to Garden of Eden and look at Adam and Eve and that God Himself covered them with the skins of animals, this too is a picture of the righteousness of Christ. Since we know that animals were sacrificed and that they are to be a picture of what was to come; that being: Christ crucified.

When we understand how all these things relate to each other, we get a greater understanding of what is trying to be said through His Spirit to us. In other words; our understanding is expanding and this is a picture of us growing in understanding. It is what is taking place inside of us.

Looking back at the part of the verse that says: "the leaves of the tree", we see a phrase that can easily be seen as an image in our mind, but hidden within that image is an understanding, and that understanding has to come from God through His Spirit which resides in our heart.

The renewing of the mind is the process we enter into of "making all things new" (Revelation 21:5) because with this image of "the leaves of the tree" we can now understand as "the righteousness of Christ". It is no longer just a "natural" understanding, it has become a "spiritual" understanding. The apostle Paul understood this well when he said "first the natural and then the spiritual" (1 Corinthians 15:46).

Now, because we have a new understanding (a spiritual one) of "the leaves of the tree" being "the righteousness of Christ" we can now better understand the second part "for the healing of the nations".

The word "nations" is plural for a purpose, it is to understand that when we look at the world in a "natural" understanding, we see this world is divided into different nations, this has now started to become a spiritual understanding because we can see "division" in the world as a whole by it being plural.

It is becoming a "spiritual" understanding because we are being shown something that is not obvious; in other words: being shown something that is hidden.

The word "nations" is a word that describes "people" and because we know for a fact that the people of this world are divided, not just in the geographical sense of different nations but also in a spiritual sense of different religions. From this we can also understand that within each religion there are divisions, thus we get different denominations within each religion.

Does it make any sense that if we are to be "one with Christ" that so many divisions exist within the same religion? When I was first given a hunger for the truth this was not clearly seen, in other words: it was not clearly understood why there were so much division within the body of Christianity. It was not until His Spirit showed me these divisions and, that since God is infinite, so is His understanding that in order to continue to grow in His understanding, we need to be moved from a limited understanding into an ever expanding understanding, we need to keep growing.

When we start to study the Bible on our own, and I mean study it by seeing the original meanings of the words, God starts showing us things that others may not see or understand. The problem with this is, when we go to others who have been there for years with excitement about what we have been shown and they do not see or understand what we are excited about, they can easily say "we are leaning on our own understanding" and without even knowing what they are doing by saying that, to the young in understanding they are saying "you need to continue to depend on us for understanding" which can kill the Spirit of the Word in us.

This is what the religious at the time of Christ were thinking, Christ was taking away their power over the people, taking away the peoples dependence on them to understand the Scriptures.

I can go on and on about this, but to steer someone away from religion is not my intent because they have a purpose in God's plan, but until God reveals their purpose to the heart of someone searching for the truth it is not clearly seen.

Getting back to this word "nations", because it is plural we see division and because "a house divided cannot stand" (Matthew 12:25), we can come to understand that the purpose of "the righteousness of Christ" is to put an end to not only the division in the world (of nations); but an end to the divisions within nations of different beliefs (religions).

This can only take place by the work of God in us first on an individual level (a person as a part of the whole) before it can take place on the corporate level (a people as a whole).

Understanding this part of the verse "and the leaves of the tree ... for the healing of the nations" is seeing it the spiritual understanding of "the righteousness of Christ ... for the healing of division" and not just a division among people; but a division within ourselves.

Recognizing the division within ourselves is to see the division of our own mind and heart, for when God, who resides in our heart speaks out of His understanding (His mind), it is His mind (in our heart) that is in opposition to our own mind. In other words, God becomes an adversary to our mind because of what we believe to be true and what is truth.

Truth comes from the heart despite the fact that the mind can believe something is true.

God is all about reconciliation, the reconciliation of mankind to Himself and through natural understandings we get spiritual understandings by and through His Spirit which resides in our hearts from where He renews our minds by reconciliation.

And by and through the Spirit of God what is hidden in the natural (a Spiritual understanding) is revealed; in other words God said "Let there be light" (Genesis 1:3): because the darkness (veil) was rent in two:

"and the leaves (and the righteousness) of the tree (of the Tree of Life/Christ) ... for (its reason/its purpose) the healing (the reconciliation) of the nations (of the division among and in ourselves)."

"And the righteousness of Christ ... its purpose is for the reconciliation of the division among ourselves" (Rev 22:2) on the corporate level.

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"And the righteousness of Christ ... its purpose is for the reconciliation of the division in ourselves to God" (Rev 22:2) on the individual level.

Because when mankind is reconciled to God on the individual level then each individual is reconciled to others on the corporate level in this physical world.



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2 Re: 2017 November on Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:54 pm

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All Truth is contained within this one statement, in the same way "all truth is contained within even a single word"



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3 Re: 2017 November on Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:16 pm

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I still continue to find it amazing how God will answer our questions. I asked for understanding the parable of the man who would tear down his barns to build a greater one for storing his fruits and goods.

It was through someone on another Christian chat board that brought up the "near death experience" (NDE) of a man and wanted to know how to debunk it.

Coming to understand that what we experience is our barn and what we come to believe because of that experience is the fruit, the goods that we store in that experience.

This man's NDE was a trip to hell and back and he has wrote about it, I do not know if it is a book or just an article, but it is stirring up fear in a lot of people.

I truly believe that this man experienced what he did, but does or can this man "see into" this experience for what it is? What I mean by this is: I truly believe this man received a vision and experienced that vision and because of what I have come to understand, I believe this man has received "a revelation".

Because we are both flesh and spirit, we can receive "a revelation of the flesh" or we can receive "a revelation of the Spirit". The thing is; can we, if we lack the understanding of telling them apart, know what we actually did experience?

Revelation, by what I have come to understand, always reveals the nature of spirit, and what I mean by this is: revelation always reveals whether someone's spirit is "of the flesh nature" or "of the Spirit nature", in other words, whether it's nature is "of men" or "of God".

I believe this man's experience, his revelation, is a revelation of the flesh nature that is prominent in a man's spirit. Fear is the greatest motivator to get someone "to believe" something that is not true or "to do" something they would not normally do. To put it plainly, fear is a tool used by men to control the thoughts and actions of others.

In the Old Testament it says "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Psalm 111:10 and Proverbs 9:10). So let me ask, is the nature of God to use fear to control our thoughts and actions? Is God's nature the same as man's? In the New Testament it says "God is Love" (1 John 4:8 ), so let me ask this question also, is the nature of God to use love to control our thoughts and actions?

His word also says, "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love." (1 John 4:18).

Does it make any sense that God would put fear into us just to cast it out again? Or are we to understand all this as God is casting out the fear that men put into us? I believe the second statement that; God casts out the fear that men put into us, because the flesh nature of men (fear) is always in opposition to the Spirit nature of God (love).

Understanding that fear is a signal that something is wrong in our own spirit, and what I mean by that is: fear is the signal that we are about to move from God's nature of love (which produces the fruit of rest/peace) into man's nature of fear (which produces the fruit of unrest/no peace) and because of this unrest we feel we need to do something about it rather than be still and know that He is God and will cast out the cause of unrest (fear).

Just like pain is a signal that something is wrong in our physical body and we go to a doctor to find out the cause ..... so is fear a signal that something is wrong in our spirit and we go to the great physician to find out the cause. Do we believe that man's nature is the cause of our fears, whether it comes from within ourselves or from an outside source of another who is also living in fear?

So let me ask this question of you, do you believe that this man's revelation was one of God's nature or of man's nature? Does God draw us unto Himself through love or does He draw us unto Himself through fear?

Because I believe that this man's revelation was a revelation of the flesh nature of men, in what mankind does to itself, using fear to control the thoughts and actions of others, it was through this example that the Lord give me an understanding of the parable of "the greater barn".

Because our spirit is a life that all experiences are stored in, is this man going to have a greater life because of his experience? Is he now going to be recognized as someone with authority because of his experience? Meaning are people going to go to him for understanding or will he point them towards Christ? And if he points others towards Christ, is he going to use fear, the fear of going to hell, to get them to come to Christ?

Again, men use fear to draw others to Christ, God uses love to draw others to His Son. Of which nature are we to point others to Christ, fear or love? Understanding that through love, it takes longer to draw others to Christ, and love (God's Spirit) is patient, fear is a shortcut because man's spirit is impatient, and it is impatient because it believes there is a limited amount of time, that we only have the time we are physically alive to come to Christ.

If God's understanding of all things is unlimited, the nature of God knows for a fact that man "cannot" understand everything within a limited amount of time, whereas the nature of man says we "have to" in order to be saved. But what are we being "saved from", hell or our own ignorance of God's nature?

Man's own ignorance of God's nature is what gave birth to the idea of hell and fear is the power of this idea.

So what is "the greater barn" that all of our experiences (fruits/goods) will be stored in?

"the greater barn" is "a greater spirit of fear"

to be continued .....



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4 Re: 2017 November on Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:34 pm

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A person wrote this on another board:

I'm Ash (a male). I was born in the late seventies. I don't have much of a heart warming story to tell, so I'll keep it brief. I am was raised  Catholic, though I'm actually closer to being an agnostic or an atheist. The main reason of mine for not truly believing in a god is because a hypothetically good, benign, and all powerful deity would not allow any suffering, and yet in all of the religions of the world, all of the gods allows suffering, including the biblical one (OT and NT). So then what is the point of God saving all if he didn't  protect people from harm in the first place (i.e. Adam and Eve). Then the idea that he has all of these corrupt institutions, the hegemony, slavery, monarchies, etc. and that he demands total subjugation and worship from his followers shows this 'god's' true character. Jesus is no better, the Angels are no better, Satan his demons and the antichrist aren't any better. They all want the same thing. So no, I am not a fully convinced bible believer or a christian though I have an open mind.

This was my reply:

For me, it is understanding what God says through His written word, "There is none like me"

and it is seeing the difference between "believing" something is true and "knowing" something is true

Yes, we can "believe" that statement is true, but do we "know" it is true; do we know it as "TRUTH"

The only way God could prove that statement to be truth is to create a place (the physical universe) where He cannot be physically seen (yet some of mankind did in His Son who walked this earth), but where His presence can be physically felt and heard, and that is because He lives inside us, for some only a dormant seed that has yet to be watered to start the growing process.

We cannot find God by searching this outside world, we find Him only by looking inward, into ourselves, for the kingdom of God is within us and that is where He resides.

The reason we see so much suffering and death in this physical world is because outside the presence of God exists "all that He is not" and until we search for "all that He is" inside of ourselves, death and suffering will continue to be manifested through this corrupted flesh in this physical world.

To understand more than what God is "all that is good" is to want to understand "all that He is not", thus the reason He allowed (did not prevent/protect) us to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the tree of the knowledge of "all that He is" and "all that He is not"

He allowed (did not prevent/protect) us to eat so God could prove to us that "There is none like Him", it had to become Truth to us, not just something that is true.

In other words, it had to become His Son (Truth) in us, someone we "KNOW" not "just" someone we "believe", though believing is part of the process

Hearing is the beginning of the process of believing and believing leads to knowing and "knowing" is the revealing of Truth

Which relates to the pattern of the Tabernacle:
We "hear" in the outer court (we hear in the Spirit)
We "believe" in the inner court (we believe in the Son)
We "know" in the Holy of Holies (we know in the Father)

We know the Father in/by/through believing the Son (the Word) in/by/through hearing in their Spirit which is One

and I posted this on another board:

Hell (defined as a place of ET) is a desire in the hearts of men to control the thoughts and actions of others through a mind focused on fear

Fear is the greatest weapon in the devils arsenal



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5 Re: 2017 November on Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:58 pm

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This morning as I was reading some threads on a Christian chat board, there was one that caught my attention, it had to do with "strongholds".

As I dwelled in this word, I found that it is a place of limitation and to come to an understanding of true freedom is to be released from this stronghold; this place of limitations.

To go beyond this place of limitation is to be brought into a new way of thinking, that way of thinking is: "what we thought was impossible becomes possible."

In this new place that is now limitless, we can find that God is more than we could ever imagine: He is more loving than we ever thought possible.

In this place of no limits we find that God's law is to show us what sin is, and judgement is for the purpose of judging "what" is sin and "what" is not .... it was not intended to be used for judging "who" is sinning and "who" is not ... even though it was not intended to be used for judging sinners that is what the nature of man uses it for.

The apostle Paul tells us that "the strength of sin is the law" (1 Corinthians 15:56) and when we use the law to accuse others of sinning, are we not becoming Satan himself? Is this not true that the original meaning of Satan is "the accuser"?

So, with this in mind, what is sin? From what I come to understand through this is: "to accuse" someone of sin "IS" sin, which by this we also understand what Christ Himself said: "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (Matthew 7:2).

To say that God will judge us as a sinner, "accuse" us of being sinners after we physically die and face Him is to say that God Himself sins and that God Himself is Satan, "the accuser" and we know that is an impossibility.

Is what we thought impossible become possible, that God will sin against us by accusing and judging us as sinners? It is only by coming to understand that this IS an impossibility can we come to the conclusion that God can forgive us of our sins even after we die.

"and as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment." (Hebrews 9:27); men will use this verse to say that God will become our accuser in the judgment; but this word "judgment" means "a tribunal" which we can understand as a trial, but is the judgment God comes to in this trial going to be one "for us" or "against us", "if God be for us, who can be against us" (Romans 8:31).

Understanding that the heart of God is "for us" and it is the heart of man that is "against us".  

The reason the heart of man is "against us" is because the heart of man sees itself as better than another, and the reason the heart of God is "for us" is because He sees us all in the same way. God does not show favoritism but the heart of man does.

The heart of man is his stronghold, it keeps his spirit in the prison of believing He is not sinning by accusing others of sin. But if we are all transgressors of the law (which we are/were), that there are none righteous, the only "just" thing to do is condemn all of us by the law or save us all by grace; for it is not a "just" decision to save some and not others if there are none righteous.

The greatest lie that man can believe is that he will not die by eating the knowledge of good and evil because he does not understand that to accuse others of sin is sinning, it is missing the mark and the mark is Christ Himself, the embodiment of "the forgiveness of sin".

Christ is the physical manifestation of the heart of the Father, His heart of forgiveness.



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