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1 Tape Eleven on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:59 pm


Rev 8:1
And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, [which came] with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound

Half Hour of Silence
We’ve been through six of the seven seals in the scroll that God has opened up for man to see and be encouraged. This is a scroll of redemption. It took the lamb to open it for no one was worthy except the lamb. Daniel had seen the contents of this scroll as well, but he was told to seal it until the time of the end. This book or scroll isn’t something that is yet to be opened, it has already been opened because it speaks of our redemption in it’s entirety.

Now we’re at the 7th seal and there is a half hour of silence. Why would this be necessary? One sarcastic minister stated that it was needed to give the dispensationalists time to get their maps and charts to add up and come out right. But John’s readers knew exactly what that half hour of silence was about. The Jews didn’t have weapons or politicians that would step in and break up the persecution and slaughter that they were experiencing. But they did have prayer. They understood how to use prayer.

We live in a noisy world. It takes serious godly silence just to alert us as to how noisy our world is. In this passage God silences the elders and angels that earlier thundering their praises and worship to him in the earlier chapters. In chapter 6, the altar is the same there as here. There we saw the souls under the altar crying out “How long will the persecution go on?” One of the biggest questions people have is “why” and “how long?” When we know that the prayer isn’t being delayed by someone’s procrastination and indifference, we often ask the same thing. There are important things that have to happen between chapter 6 and 8.

“Knowing” God
There’s more to prayer than just you getting an answer from God. The whole process of prayer is not just finding out what’s on God’s mind, but it’s to find out who he is. Often times it seems as though God purposefully eludes us when we cry out to him with our petitions. He’s not playing a cat and mouse game with you, but he knows how the human mind works. If he wanted to, he could tell you in minutes everything you wanted to know about heaven, hell, salvation, past, future, present times. But if our prayers were answered in that context, it wouldn’t be long until we quit going to him because we’d soon have all the information we needed to pacify ourselves. The key to prayer isn’t information or even individual relief from suffering, but it’s all about intimacy.

Psalm 46:10 states that we are to “be still and know he is God”. Stillness and silence is something in our racing minds that is hard for us to reach for. Once you master silence and solitude before God you’ll experience deeper revelations of who he is and how he speaks. Silence is a powerful exercise to strengthen your walk and relationship with God. There are certain things God has to silence before he can be heard, just as there are things that need to be silenced in me before I can hear him as well.

Hab 2:18
What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols? Hab 2:19 Woe unto him that saith to the wood, Awake; to the dumb stone, Arise, it shall teach! Behold, it [is] laid over with gold and silver, and [there is] no breath at all in the midst of it. Hab 2:20 But the LORD [is] in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.

Message Translation
18"What's the use of a carved god so skillfully carved by its sculptor? What good is a fancy cast god when all it tells is lies? What sense does it make to be a pious god-maker who makes gods that can't even talk? 19Who do you think you are-- saying to a stick of wood, "Wake up,' Or to a dumb stone, "Get up'? Can they teach you anything about anything? There's nothing to them but surface. There's nothing on the inside. 20"But oh! GOD is in his holy Temple! Quiet everyone--a holy silence. Listen!"
20But the LORD is in his holy Temple. Let all the earth be silent before him (New Living Translation)

What’s in an Idol?
We’ve often taken this passage to mean literal idols that are made by those in third-world countries. They’ll make a carved idol and hang it or worship it. But in our educated society, we would never set down to such a thing, unless we’re into what we feel is witchcraft. But the enemy doesn’t ignore us when it comes to idol worship just because we’re more educated. Our idols are much more subtle. Idolatry is something that’s being dealt with in Revelation and it’s something that needs to be dealt with in each of us as well.

Then in verse 20, we take it to mean that whenever God manifests his presence in the Old Testament on special occasions such as when Solomon’s temple was completed, God’s glory came into the place and the priests were overcome by the power of God’s presence and couldn’t fulfill their duties. It was something they looked at with such fear and reverence that everyone was “afraid” to say anything.

The Earth in Me
But understand that even though that does apply there and in other places in the Old Testament as well, in the New Testament we learn that “we” are the temple of the Holy Ghost. When He is truly manifesting himself fully in this temple, then all the earth . .”this” earth, meaning my carnal mind and anything else worldly in me, must remain silent before him.

To Reject it, is to Become Dumb
Remember John the Baptist’s father? When an angel announced the birth, Zecharias doubted this new revelation and as a result, he was muted. Often times, God gives an Apostolic utterance or a revelation to us that dumbfounds us. Our first reflex is to reject it because it’s complicated or too deep or nothing we’ve ever heard before, what have you. But instead of releasing doubt, we should simply remain silent before God and let him allow these hard things to become clearer to our spirit. Otherwise you abort the seed of God.

Physical Angel = Spiritual Apostle = Stars
There is a great similarity between angels and Apostles in the New Testament as they are both messengers of revelation. So when the angel comes with this message, even though Zechariah is a priest and has a common understanding of spiritual things, what the angel brings is so far from his normal reference of understanding and so far from everything he’s ever heard before in his entire lifetime. It’s so far from what he’s been taught in the religious system that he simply can not believe it.

To Reject is to also become Deaf
He rationalizes and reasons against it so the angel strikes him dumb and Scripture says he became speechless for the entire duration of John the Baptist’s growth in his mother’s womb. But it goes even further than that. Because of the way Scripture indicates of how they communicated to Zechariah, through hand motions and such, that not only was he mute, but he was also deaf. It’s not until after the birth of the child and it’s time to establish a name for the son that Zechariah’s tongue is released. And instead of holding to tradition and naming his son after himself, he give’s his son a name that was given to him by the messenger spirit sent from God.

Until we get to the place where the prophetic word of God that you have never heard before, that doesn’t line up with what you have been taught over the years, that doesn’t fit into your frame of reference. Until you can let that gestate in you and let it come to full term the spirit of John the Baptist, which as we all know is a man that is easily seen as repentance, a changing of direction, you’d be better off deaf and dumb. To be silent, to be speechless.

Silencing the Earth In Us
The traditions of men have made the word of God ineffective. So if God is ever going to speak in your life, he’s going to have to shut your earth up. The voice of your mind. 1 Corinthians 14 speaks of the fact that there are many voices in the world that reverberate and resonate inside your head. It’s not until you’re made dumb that God can get through and speak to you.

It has been taught that this half hour of silence is connected with the amount of time it took the priests, whenever they’d go into the temple and offer incense on the golden altar which sets in front of the linen veil which represents holiness. From the sacrificing of the animal at the brazen or bronze altar outside the tabernacle, to the washing of their hands at the laver. Then entering into the tabernacle and trimming the wicks on the lamp-stand, taking care of the bread on the table of shewbread, and then pouring two handfuls of incense onto the altar of incense.

Prayerful Praise is the Key
In Psalm 41:2 it talks about the offering of my prayer being given as incense with the lifting up of my hands before the evening sacrifice. Praise and prayer is the only vehicle that will take us beyond the veil of our flesh, our human limitations. It’s not “one” way it’s the only way. It not only penetrates the veil, but it ascends before God. The people would stand in the outer court and wait in silence for the priest to come back out.

When he came back out to the people, his garments would be heavy with the aroma of the incense and a shout of praise would go up from the people as they would then see that the sacrifice was accepted and received by God. So that’s what much of the time of worship is dealing with. It’s to quiet the minds in order for God’s spirit to reach and speak to the spirits of the church. You can’t hear the trumpet until your mind is quiet. Let all the earth be silent.

The Folded Linen of the Tomb
The half hour of silence also can be connected to when Jesus spoke to the idea that his hour has come. Jesus comes in an hour and Babylon falls in an hour in Revelation. So in essence, we are seeing the revelation of Jesus given to John is half complete. It’s much like what we saw in the tomb when the disciples came and found the cloth that covered Jesus head was folded and laid aside, but the linen that wrapped his body wasn’t. It was still laid out where he was laying.

This is connected to the fact that Jesus work is finished, done and set aside. There is nothing more that is required by God to redeem man from sin. Jesus is the Head, we are the body. The cloth covering the head was folded and set aside showing this very thing. But it’s also showing the body is not yet complete. If you think about this, you’ll see that there is great significance in the reasons why the burial clothes were arranged the way they were. Every thing Jesus ever did, had spiritual symbolism and significance. The fact that the linen that wrapped his body was unfolded is showing that his work is finished, but the completion of the body of Christ is not.

So everything here is silenced as the trumpets are getting ready to sound. Seven trumpets are about to be sounded. Where else in Scripture did we read about seven trumpets? In Joshua where 7 priests carried 7 trumpets and walked 7 times around the walls of Jerrico for 7 days. We see a reoccurring pattern of 7’s all through out Revelation which speaks of perfection. In fact, we see numbers used heavily all through Scripture, but the number 7 is used more in Revelation than any other book because Revelation is the culmination of the other Scriptures. Genesis is the seed bed of the Bible, but Revelation is the completed tree of Life.

So we should have our minds quickened of Jericho because that’s what John is trying to invoke. Remember what God told Moses to pass on to the people marching around the walls were to do? They were to keep their mouths shut. They were to be silent. The only sound that was to be made was the sound of a trumpet. See the connection? Silent around Jericho, silent in Revelation.

Trumpets always speak of the prophetic. In the very beginning of Revelation, John stated that the voice he heard sounded like the voice of a trumpet. Then in chapter four verse one, he says the same thing that called him up to show him of things that were to happen hereafter and that wasn’t speaking of the Rapture of the church, it was speaking of the fact that he was stepping through a door or a realm or another dimension to where he could see things from a heavenly perspective. We can step through that same door. Jesus said “he” is the door.

So what are the trumpets all about. In Numbers 10 Moses is instructed to make two silver trumpets. Two, being the number of witness. Why not one? Why not three? Whenever you see the number of two in Scripture you know it is always to confirm something, validate and to verify something. When Jesus was resurrected, he had two angels there, one at the head and one at the foot. It’s the same pattern that you see when you go into the holy of holies in that there are two cherubim facing each other with their wings extended touching one another.

Two silver trumpets
Silver speaks of redemption. Why not gold or bronze? Why was it specifically silver? All the way through Scripture, silver is a definite progressive type of redemption in every way. They are to make the trumpets, in 1 Corinthians 14 Paul is addressing the gifts of the spirit and he refers to a trumpet that sends forth an uncertain sound, how can people prepare for the battle. He’s speaking about a clear prophetic voice. There are many people blasting a lot of things out there these days and they’re loud and claim to be prophetic but it’s not a clear sound but it’s an uncertain one. It doesn’t create assurance in you it creates fear.

Hoping for Gloom?
Scripture says it’s a blessed hope concerning the coming of the Lord. It’s not what we hear on our televisions with the preachers sending out warnings and cautions and instilling fear and wonder. Their blasts don’t do much more than bring attention to themselves as they occasionally say Jesus here and there. But their focus is on the gloom and doom of the coming days when the earth is to be literally abolished and God’s people are going to be preened and petted while the sinners of the world get what’s coming to them.

Trumpet After Silence
In Numbers 10, we see the reason for the trumpets were for the calling of the assemblies. Whenever the tribes were to be called together, there was a distinct trumpet sound that would call them together. We can look at that prophetically and see that there was a trumpet voice that stood up after 400 years of silence between Malachi and Matthew. In that time, no one was prophesying, not one word from God to anyone. At the end of the Old covenant and the beginning of the new, there was total silence.

But there was a voice, a trumpet that stood up by the name of John the Baptist. Who said “repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.” Scripture says that he was a “voice” crying in the wilderness and his message wasn’t questionable and hard to understand. It was clear and concise. “Prepare ye the way of the Lord”. He was distinct in what he had to say. It wasn’t the religious hodge-podge that was going around in the day.

I know when I hear a voice crying in the wilderness. I know when I hear someone with good knowledge of Scripture, a good grasp of spiritual things and can impress you with their knowledge. But I also know when I hear a voice. Because it causes something to leap in me. Something in me just jumps. It’s distinct, it’s different.

Trumpets were used in the journeying of the camp.
Whenever the glory cloud began to move, you couldn’t choose your own piece of ground where you were going to set up your tent. There was a pounding sun day in and day out that you were vulnerable to and unless you spent the vast amount of your time in your tent, you’d more than likely die of sunstroke. The only thing that protected you from the heat of the sun and the harshness of the winds in the wilderness was the canopy of the glory cloud that centered itself over the tabernacle. For 15 miles across, the glory cloud enveloped them like a huge tent.

Manna In the Cloud

If you wanted to eat, you had to stay with the cloud. When it moved, you moved. When it stopped, you didn’t want to get a head of it or behind it because the manna came from the cloud. The rock followed the cloud. (1 Corinthians 10:4) The reason why some are dried up is because they didn’t move with the Holy Spirit and when he moved, they stayed. Jesus was referring to this when he said man can not live on bread alone but every word that proceeds out of God’s mouth. We live on a “proceeding” word of God.

The reason why the wilderness is covered with the bones of people that could’ve been used by the will of God was because they would not follow the cloud. The cloud is speaking of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Again, 1 Corinthians 10 speaks about the baptism of the cloud and the sea. We need to learn how to discern the voice of God. Blowing the trumpet is a proclamation that change is happening. When the cloud moved, a trumpet would blast that a shout would go up “Let God arise and his enemies be scattered”. That’s not a song that David wrote, that is a song of Moses.

1 Corinthians 10
1 I don’t want you to forget, dear brothers and sisters,[a] about our ancestors in the wilderness long ago. All of them were guided by a cloud that moved ahead of them, and all of them walked through the sea on dry ground. 2 In the cloud and in the sea, all of them were baptized as followers of Moses. 3 All of them ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all of them drank the same spiritual water. For they drank from the spiritual rock that traveled with them, and that rock was Christ

A Call to Arms, Not to Celebrate
Another one in Joel that we even sing is “Blow the trumpets in Zion, sound the alarm to God’s Holy Mountain.” We sing that thinking we are the army being alerted to prepare for battle but the alert is one that is about a heathen army. It was God using a heathen nation to judge his own people. In Revelation 8 the trumpets being blown was a trumpet coming against Israel, not calling Israel to prepare to take the land, but it’s declaring the land is going to be taken from them.

Why? Again, it all goes back to when Jesus was standing before Pilate and the Jews cried out that the blood of Jesus be upon them and their children. They rejected the fact that his blood was to remove their sins from them. They took his blessing and made it a curse. And in 70 A. D. it happened. In the history of Jerusalem, the city had been torn down 27 times and every time it’d been rebuilt, along with the temple. But this time, even though Jerusalem was rebuilt as a city, the temple was never to be rebuilt again.

So, this time the trumpet being heard is God telling them that he’s not calling them to go into battle, he’s bringing the battle against them. It was sounded to call people to worship. The three major feasts of Israel, they understood the sound of the trumpet calling them to worship. Understanding the background of the feasts is essential to understand God’s patterns. The reason why people don’t want to understand is because their not willing to stand under anyone. Scripture says my people perish for a lack of understanding and also God says elsewhere he will not “wink” anymore at our ignorance.

Let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." Colossians 2:16-17

Seven Feasts
Passover, unleavened bread, Pentecost, trumpets, day of atonement, tabernacles, first fruits. Every time one of these feasts came around, they would be announced with the sound of trumpets. Tabernacles commemorates when God comes and lives with his people. It’s not visitation, it’s habitation. Again, the tradition thinks that he’s coming to take us out of here, but reality is, he’s coming to stay with us. It’s about the feast of tabernacles, we are waiting for him to come and inhabit.

But before then is the feast of trumpets. In Leviticus you’ll find out during the feast of trumpets in the seventh month on the first day the Priests will sound trumpets and for 10 days, the number ten is significant because it speaks of testing. One of the churches in Revelation goes through tribulation for 10 days. For 10 days the people are to consecrate themselves. They are to repent, spend those 10 days in a time of allowing God to cleanse them spiritually. On the tenth day is the day of atonement.

On the day of atonement, the priest would go beyond the veil and anoint the ark with the blood of a sacrificed lamb on behalf of all the people. Just as the priest went beyond the veil on behalf of the 3 million Israelites because he wore a breastplate containing stones that represented each tribe. So Jesus went and sprinkled his own blood on the mercy seat in the realm of heaven for the propitiation or removal of our sin. Jesus didn’t do it in type, he did it in reality.

Currently, we are in the time of trumpets. We have been hearing in these past generations prophetic voices that have been heralding the restoration of certain things. At the turn of the century, there was another prophetic voice that was uttered in the earth of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. That was a trumpet blast. With every fresh movement it’s as if God sent out a trumpet blast of his glory on the earth and as a result, you’d see pockets of revivals all over the place. With each successive trumpet, it’s bringing us closer to the day of the atonement.

Rev 8:3
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, [which came] with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound

Order to God’s Pattern
If you look at the three dimensions of the tabernacle you’d see the day of atonement is when the church, the priest goes beyond the veil. The year of jubilee is another day a trumpet is sounded. Whenever the seven pieces of the furniture in the tabernacle, starting with the ark. The ark was always put up first and then they’d move outward. Reason being is because God has to come to us first before we can go to him. Even during the instructions, the ark came before the table of shewbread.

There are Two pieces in the outer court; the brazen altar and the brazen, or brass laver. Then there are three in the holy place; the lamp stand, the table of shewbread, and the altar of incense. The last two are in the Holy of holies. How can that be? Doesn’t Scripture tell us that there is only the ark in the holy of holies? Yes, but it’s in two pieces. The mercy seat is separate from the ark itself. The ark contained the three dimensions of God in the two tablets of the law, the jar of manna, and Aaron’s rod.

Whenever these things were set up, the glory cloud would hover over it. What is the cloud? It’s simply the presence of God being made in physical form for the physical Jews to see and follow. But when the tabernacle was set up, and the cloud would rest there over it all, a bolt of lightning would flash out and light the sacrifice at the brazen altar. It wasn’t lit by man. This is why Aaron’s two sons were destroyed because they brought a strange fire with them.

Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, [which came] with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound

Order to God’s Pattern
If you look at the three dimensions of the tabernacle you’d see the day of atonement is when the church, the priest goes beyond the veil. The year of jubilee is another day a trumpet is sounded. Whenever the seven pieces of the furniture in the tabernacle, starting with the ark. The ark was always put up first and then they’d move outward. Reason being is because God has to come to us first before we can go to him. Even during the instructions, the ark came before the table of shewbread.

There are Two pieces in the outer court; the brazen altar and the brazen, or brass laver. Then there are three in the holy place; the lamp stand, the table of shewbread, and the altar of incense. The last two are in the Holy of holies. How can that be? Doesn’t Scripture tell us that there is only the ark in the holy of holies? Yes, but it’s in two pieces. The mercy seat is separate from the ark itself. The ark contained the three dimensions of God in the two tablets of the law, the jar of manna, and Aaron’s rod.

Whenever these things were set up, the glory cloud would hover over it. What is the cloud? It’s simply the presence of God being made in physical form for the physical Jews to see and follow. But when the tabernacle was set up, and the cloud would rest there over it all, a bolt of lightning would flash out and light the sacrifice at the brazen altar. It wasn’t lit by man. This is why Aaron’s two sons were destroyed because they brought a strange fire with them.

Fires of Variation
What’s the difference between strange fire and holy fire? When Elijah called out “Let the real God come and answer with “fire.” Ever wonder why he chose to have God show up in fire? Because he knew that one of the false god’s of bail was fire. They knew how to start fire through trickery and manipulation but they didn’t realize a false fire can come from only beneath rather than from above.

Pentecostal Baalism
There are a lot of charismatic services that are similar to Baal worship with all their jumping around, hollering and carrying on to the point of bringing out snakes in one extreme. There’s nothing wrong with someone getting the anointing of David’s dance in them through the spirit, but it’s those that carry questionable doctrine and opinion out of alignment with God that also carry on in worship and praise to the point they make it a mockery instead of a manifestation of his glory on them. Dance and praise isn’t something you work up, it’s something God creates in you.

It was the fire that God started at the altar that was carried into the temple and lit the fire in the lamp stand and the altar of incense. It’s saying that God will only accept a fire being presented to him if it’s one that he started in the first place. All of our ministries and praise and worship should come from one fire. All things are connected to the work of the cross. We offend a lot of people that could come in, but even they can see the fake hypocrisy of the church to the point where it makes them shake their heads in disgust while we carry on as though we’re the holiest thing that hit the earth since the empty tomb.

Editor’s Note
Since I’ve completed teaching this in it’s entirety the first time around, I’ve come into an even deeper understanding of this fire as well. The difference between a heavenly fire and a cultivated fire is the vision that manifests when each cast their light. The heavenly fire illuminates the love of Christ. The perspective of life is based on relationship. But the cultivated fire only illuminates fear and death. This is why we cringe when we hear sermons that are based on fear tactics about fire and brimstone and hell. They are all with the best of intentions, but they are illuminating the state of man more than they are of the position of rest in Christ.
End Note
Pouring out the Coals of Fire
Why, do we see the depiction of the altar and the angel takes the coals from it and throws them back to the earth? The angel takes the prayers of the saints, mixes them with fire, and throws all of it back to the earth. Remember the altar was referred to in chapter 6 concerning the martyred souls under the altar. When ever the children of Israel, in the Old Testament, conquered a city, they were to gather the spoil and either burn all the spoil or a portion of it with fire unto the Lord. The spoils set on fire were burned with a fire from the altar. God was dealing with idolatry then and now. The church is much like Rebecca when she realized she’d been chosen by Isaac to be his bride. But when we come to meet the bridegroom, we’ve got idols hidden in our sack. Isaac is a type of Christ.

The prayer of the persecuted Christians were sent up before God in Revelation and the angel blended the prayer of the saints with the incense and poured it out upon the earth. According to other passages of Scripture, even though it’s not clearly mentioned in this particular part of Revelation, there is only one mediator between us and God. The prayers we pray go to him in Jesus name. We’re not praying to angels, we pray to God in Jesus name and he sets at the right hand of God. This could very well be what we refer in the Old Testament as a theophony.

Romans 12
19Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave the way open for [God's] wrath; for it is written, Vengeance is Mine, I will repay (requite), says the Lord. 20But if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.

Interesting God chose to use the analogy of pouring out coals on the heads of our enemies. This seems to be connected with what we see in Revelation. Some people use this Scripture in a negative sense. But what it means is, I will use worship my way through situation. I’ll offer prayer and praise unto God, rather than turning on you and giving you a piece of my mind. It’s actually an act of worship! Being “incensed” toward someone is a choice. When someone is incensed, it means they’re red-hot angry. But you can choose to be incensed toward man, or offer your incense to God through praise and worship. Use their head as an altar of incense.

Revelation by Spirit, Not By Doctrine and Debate
So, the first church was not dependant on having their favorite right-wing conservative candidate to step up and defend them. First century Christians didn’t have that luxury. All they could do was pray. And that’s all we as modern-day, spoiled human Christians ever need to do is pray. We’ve had too many other options. God is waiting for a people that will not try to rely on carnal weapons for their warfare. The carnal thinking that I can debate my theology and bring people to the light. Have we forgotten the words of Jesus? He told Peter, “no man has explained to you this revelation that I am the Messiah, only by the way of the Spirit of the Living God has, and can this be revealed.

The worldly Christian looks at the logic of Christ and scoffs at the idea of fighting a fight from the closet when the politically correct way to deal with pornography in the neighborhood is by picketing the sidewalks in front of the stores and tell the world how much you condemn the sin that’s blatantly going on. But at the same time, the life-filled Christian has locked him or herself away in their closet and their prayers are being sent up to God through Jesus. And Jesus is taking the prayers and mixing them with the incense of praise, heavenly glory, and he’s pouring our prayers back out on that pornography shop as vindication of his blood in our lives! That doesn’t make any sense to the carnal mind but that’s what you call kingdom operation.

Rev 8:4
And the smoke of the incense, [which came] with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast [it] into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake

Where in the Bible to we see the combination of these same things? Mount Sinai, at the giving of the law. What is the New Testament counterpart to Mount Sinai? Mount Zion. Whenever the baptism of the Holy Ghost poured out there was a sound of a rushing mighty wind and they saw what appeared to be tongues of what? Fire. On Mount Sinai, God gave the Israelites laws on tablets of stone. But from Mount Zion, when the fire fell and the Holy Ghost baptized, or “changed them from within” God had given his law upon the tables of their hearts.

Lightning = Revelation
And there were voices and lightening – flashes of his glory. That’s what lightening represents. Flashes of revelation. So when he talks about the prayers ascending up and the prayers mixing with incense and then descending down. It sounds much like Ephesians 4 where it speaks of him first ascending up before descending down and giving gifts to men. Apostles, prophets, evangelists, Preachers and teachers. These are called ascension gifts ministries.

Not only is it a revelation of the coming of the Holy Ghost in Acts 2, remember those people were praying in the upper room for 10 days. Jesus was on the earth for 40 days after the crucifixion and we know the day of Pentecost, which means 50, comes 50 days after the Passover, which was when Jesus was crucified. Jesus ascended into heaven and 10 days later, Pentecost fell. 10 days, remember 10 from the sounding of the trumpets to the day of atonement.

Ephesians 4
7However, he has given each one of us a special gift according to the generosity of Christ. 8That is why the Scriptures say, "When he ascended to the heights,
he led a crowd of captives and gave gifts to his people." 9Notice that it says "he ascended." This means that Christ first came down to the lowly world in which we live. 10The same one who came down is the one who ascended higher than all the heavens, so that his rule might fill the entire universe. 11He is the one who gave these gifts to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers. 12Their responsibility is to equip God's people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ, 13until we come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God's Son that we will be mature and full grown in the Lord, measuring up to the full stature of Christ.

Pouring Out Coals of Purifying Gifts
When he ascended, this is the dimension where we see the angel of Revelation pouring out the prayers of the saints that had been mixed in with the incense. Rather than see this pouring out of the coals to be a thing of judgment, perhaps what it’s showing is what we see in Ephesians, it’s a pouring out of gifts to equip the people to strengthen the church in preparation for his return to a mature bride. Isaiah spoke about coals touching his lips, purifying his speech in order to preach the Gospel, or relay the prophetic word he’d been given.

Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

Preparation to Sound
This is an important verse to catch. Many people right now are quick to speak things out that they feel God has put on their hearts and it’s a concern because they aren’t “prepared” to sound, they just “sound” by reflex. In Ephesians 6 it speaks about putting on the armor of God. And for the shoes, it is not the gospel of peace. It’s the “preparation” of the gospel of peace. A prepared heart is much more effective than one that operates through reflex. This is part of the reason why there was a half hour of silence, it was preparation time. The marking of the saints was a preparation for the judgement to come.

If they weren’t prepared, the judgement would have destroyed them as well. Preparation is for our protection. It’s an important step in everything we’re to do. Even when we come to the cross, Scripture says we’re to count the cost before making the commitment. It’s better to weigh things out ahead of time than to make quick decisions only to have to go back on your original word. We may not put a lot of weight into our own promises and spoken agreements, but God does.

The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Purge -vs.- Punish
As hard as it is to grasp for some, there’s really nothing new in Revelation. You don’t need to read the headlines of the day. No world report needed to interpret. No computer technology to explain about the mark of the beast. This is all Old Testament stuff. The trumpets reconstruct the Old Testament plagues which were not released to punish as much as they were released to purge. We’re out of Egypt, but for some, there’s still a lot of Egypt in us. God wasn’t trying to purposefully get Pharaoh mad and in a rage, he was trying to get him to repent.

Some people have issues with the idea that God would be the one sending the plagues. For one, to argue that would be to come against his word that says it. But more importantly would be “why” would God allow plagues to come in the first place? The reason is because we won’t listen to the voice of his Spirit so, because of his unimaginable desire to bring us in to his covering, he’ll allow things to happen to get us into a place of brokeness. If we volunteered giving ourselves up for him, there’d be pruning and refining, but nothing like the extent of what we’re seeing here. It’s really our decision as to how easily things will go for us.

Spiritually Still Stoning the Prophets
We won’t listen to the Holy Spirit and we won’t listen to his prophets. We’ve stoned his prophets. “How can that happen?” Every Sunday morning when we reject what’s being taught or preached. Spiritually our attitudes have the same effect that the stones of the religious had when a person spoke on God’s behalf. We do it in our minds all the time. Pastors can feel the pellets of stones against them.

So, everyone of the plagues coming, we are going to see they are going to be paralleled again in Revelation. What are the plagues? They are all gods of Egypt. They worshipped the hail, sun, moon, Nile, flies all the elements of nature. What does that have to do with Revelation? It has been said by all who choose to attempt to interpret prophetic Scripture, that the Bible always interprets itself. Revelation is no exception to that rule. But the futurists seem to have forgotten that when coming to this book.

2 Tape Eleven Part 2 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:59 pm



Exodus 9
23And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the LORD sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the LORD rained hail upon the land of Egypt. 24So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.

Shepherd Haters
God’s voice or trumpets are judging our gods and idols. That’s why there’s such resistance and defensiveness when these things are brought to the Light. Exodus 9 speaks of hail and fire mixed that ran along the ground in Egypt. Egypt hated shepherds, which is one of the reasons why they hated the Jews because they comprised mostly of shepherds. And even today, you still see many with the spirit of Egypt on them that still hate shepherds . .spiritual leaders of the church. So they run from the hail of the word of God.

Isaiah 28:17
17"I will take the measuring line of justice and the plumb line of righteousness to check the foundation wall you have built. Your refuge looks strong, but since it is made of lies, a hailstorm will knock it down. Since it is made of deception, the enemy will come like a flood to sweep it away.

Storms In the Church
Sometimes we get into a hailstorm in our churches. It’s not rain. Rain is a type of teaching as we learned in Deuteronomy. Sometimes it’s not rain, sometimes it comes like a hailstorm and we try to run from it to get out of it because there are days when you feel like you’re spiritually getting pelted from all sides. But as you run, it mixes with fire and chases you down. That word is so burning, it’s so crystallized and penetrating that no matter how hard you run, everywhere you go you can’t get away because God is running Egypt out of you. Jesus was a hailstorm of truth.

John the Baptist said of Jesus that he, John, was not even worthy to unlatch his shoes, but he who comes after him will baptize them with spirit and “fire”. Jesus spoke about men building their houses with different types of material. Some with wood, others with hay, some with stone, but then all will go through a testing of “fire”. When the Holy Spirit fell on the upper room, it came with Fire.

Bringing it Together
So let’s put this all together. The hail, or the truth of the Word of God, and the fire of the Holy Ghost, mingled with the blood of the lamb was cast to the earth. And it destroyed a third of the trees and the grass and burned it up. Scripture says all flesh is as grass. Trees are also reference to men. Historically, when Rome came against Jerusalem in 70 A.D. and they didn’t just come and rake the cities and demolish everything in their path, raping women, killing children, they also set fire to everything that was left, including all the open fields. The entire nation of Israel was literally burned by fire.

Isa 40:6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh [is] grass, and all the goodliness thereof [is] as the flower of the field:

1Pe 1:24 For all flesh [is] as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

Scripture talks about a dessert blossoming like a rose. This is true in the literal with Israel as it has been over the past years rejuvenating since the destruction, but it’s also true in the prophetic that we are the rose in the dessert blossoming. The Romans totally destroyed all the gardens and parks and they scorched the lands. This has happened historically, but we must understand God in the prophetic.

Rev 8:8
And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

Jerusalem as Babylon?
Israel is referred to as God’s holy mountain. Historically this is referring to Israel. But again prophetically, God calls Babylon in Jeremiah 51, a burning and destroying mountain. What does Babylon have to do with Jerusalem? Later on we’re going to see where God is referring to Jerusalem as Babylon. And he calls her Sodom and Gomarah because in her apostasy, she was a harlot on every hill. This is true today as well.

Jer 51:25
Behold, I [am] against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the LORD, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain.

This is not the same as many teach today with the harlot being the Catholic church. The scarlet woman is the apostate church. It’s the religious system, Babylon, not just about the denominations or even religious systems. It’s about the systems that remain in our minds.

A burning mountain, read Jeremiah 51 later and you’ll see that this is referring to Jerusalem as well. Historically this is using the same language speaking of Jerusalem. In the Gospel of Mark, Matthew also, where the Lord speaks about having the faith like a grain of mustard seed and you can speak to a fig tree to be plucked up by the roots and cast into the sea, or to the mountain to be removed. All the faith teachers have used this passage through all these years to teach that if you have the smallest amount of faith, you still can move a mountain.

Fig Tree and the Mountain
Jesus wasn’t speaking flippantly here when he said if you have faith you can speak to any mountain, he said specifically “this mountain”. Jesus was talking about a particular mountain. “If you have faith you can say to “this” mountain, be thou removed and cast into the sea.” Let’s be logical here, why would Jesus give the authority to the disciples to speak to a literal mountain. The fig tree and the mountain that he’s referring to is the mountain on which the temple sat that he had abandoned and will never go back to it because he doesn’t live in a temple made by human hands, we are the temple of the Holy Ghost.

The mountain is where the temple stood and he was referring to the prayers of God’s people. Remember the two major sources of persecution the first century church was facing was the religious Jews and the Roman government. This has nothing to do with anti-Semitism and everything to do with what the Israel of God is. In Christ there is not male or female, gentile or Jew, bond or free . .in Christ. A Jewish person has to come to Jesus just like anyone else. The mountain that was removed and thrown into the sea speaks of the temple that was demolished and set on fire.

Daniel’s Rolling Stone Set Afire

Prophetically the mountain could be viewed as mount Zion the church. Hebrews 12 speaks that we are the first born, we have come to mount Zion. When we go back to Daniel’s vision in chapter two, he saw the stone cut out not by human hands and it rolled across the earth and he saw the stone become a great mountain that filled the whole earth. Who do you think Daniel saw? He saw Jesus manifested in the body that rolled and rolled until it filled the whole earth and the mountain is the kingdom of God, the body of Christ. In Acts 2 the mountain was set on fire by the coming of the Holy Spirit and the mountain of the Lord with the burning message of the blood of the cross was thrown into the sea of humanity.

Rev 8:9
And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Spiritual Ships
And so in the first century, a third of the whole world had been touched by the blood. Remember in the prophetic, seas refer to humanity. The creatures that once had life, which was what the Old Covenant was intended to give, even though it was temporary, Paul says in Romans that the law in and of itself is good, but it’s the sin in us that makes it our bondage instead of our deliverance. So, the creatures, meaning man in general, that once had life, meaning the instructions of God or Laws of Moses which originally came from God, the creatures died, as well as the ships.

A ship is what carries a man over impenetrable environments. Just as a man floating on water in a boat, so we are carried over the seas of carnality by our belief systems. Those beliefs that are not built of the right materials or made from ungodly blueprints will eventually be swallowed up and consumed. This is what is taking place in symbolism of the seas and the ships this verse speaks of. God destroyed every religious vessel and sank them all when Jesus came on the scene.

¬Where do we see the first mention of a ship? Actually, it’s not called a ship, it’s called an ark. Noah built a ship. But when you look at this ship spiritually, you see that it represents Christ. It has one door, Jesus is the door. It had three levels, the tabernacle of Moses, which is a copy of a spiritual tabernacle, has three dimensions. Living creatures that were given the breath of life came in by twos, the number of witness, the boat was filled with the testimony of Christ. It was covered with pitch, within and without. Pitch, the Hebrew word meaning atonement. All these things connect you to Jesus being our ship not made by human hands. But the ships we see in Revelation are ships made by human mindsets. They are religious systems being swallowed up by the very sea they were attempting to escape from.

Rev 8:10
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

This passage has been taught to mean there’s to be a literal star that falls from heaven that is to cause all of these things to happen during the seven year Tribulation. But again, understand the patterns of God and you will find the presence where God dwells. Stars, as we’ve seen already, all through Scripture consistently speak of ministry.

Numbers 24
"I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near; A star shall come forth from Jacob, A scepter shall rise from Israel, And shall crush through the forehead of Moab, And tear down all the sons of Sheth

Message Translation]
Decree of Balaam son of Beor, decree of the man with 20/20 vision, 16Decree of the man who hears godly speech, who knows what's going on with the High God, Who sees what The Strong God reveals, who bows in worship and sees what's real. 17I see him, but not right now, I perceive him, but not right here; A star rises from Jacob a scepter from Israel, Crushing the heads of Moab, the skulls of all the noisy windbags; 18I see Edom sold off at auction, enemy Seir marked down at the flea market, while Israel walks off with the trophies.19A ruler is coming from Jacob who'll destroy what's left in the city.

The Stars of Scripture
This is a prophetic vision of Jesus. Genesis 37, 9 and 10 speaks of stars which were Joseph’s brothers which also depicts Israel and the church. 1 Corinthians 15:41 talks about stars having various degrees of light they give off. They are luminaries. The moon throughout the Bible speaks of the church because it reflects the glory of the greater. Jesus speaks of the sun. Malachi speaks about the Sun that has risen with healing in his wings.

As the church, all we can do is reflect his glory. Stars are luminaries, they are fixed in the heavens. They have fixed orbits. Jude 13 speaks of wandering stars that are false prophets. They are not fixed in God’s orientation of things. To be fixed is also to be in submission to-. False prophets can not submit to other men because they are not in submission to God’s truth. They are wandering stars. They’re like shooting stars, they draw the attention of all who see them streaking, but it’s only for a moment and then they’re gone. They draw a lot of attention and make a big splash but they accomplish nothing and only burn for a day. They are not stationed by God. They do not point to the greater glory which is Jesus.

Editor’s note
Before I go on, I had looked up the passage in 1st Corinthians that is spoken about and there was so much there that jumped out at me I had to include not only the verse given for reference to stars, but the context in which it came. I’m going to start with verse 29 because for the first time, I now understand what Paul meant by people being baptized on behalf of the dead. Until now, I have always looked at this from a physical point of understanding and it never fit.

1 Corinthians 15:41
29Why do you think people offer themselves to be baptized for those already in the grave? If there's no chance of resurrection for a corpse, if God's power stops at the cemetery gates, why do we keep doing things that suggest he's going to clean the place out someday, pulling everyone up on their feet alive?

Baptizing of the Dead?

The curious thing about this is, Paul isn’t speaking against the idea of people being baptized on behalf of the dead. He’s actually using this mysterious action for his basis on preaching about resurrection. But according to other passages of Scripture, once you’re dead, that’s it. There’s no time or accommodation for a person after they die to enter into heaven, let alone be baptized. So, if there is no allowance after death, then why does this seem to be the accepted practice? There is only one way to have this come into agreement with Scripture’s other passages about what happens after death. And that is, to understand it from a spiritual point of view, rather than a physical.

This entire passage, Paul is speaking from a spiritual point of view. Those that are spiritually dead and in their graves. The ones that are being baptized for them are the ones that understand the power of life and can reverse the curse of death on those that are without God. When they are baptized on someone else’s behalf, it’s to say they are in intercession for them. They are dying to themselves and praying for those that are spiritually dead. Reason being, as Paul goes on to say is because they have hope in the fact that the person that is spiritually dead can experience the resurrection of life by accepting Christ into their hearts.

1 Corinthians 15:41
29Why do you think people offer themselves to be baptized for those already in the grave? If there's no chance of resurrection for a corpse, if God's power stops at the cemetery gates, why do we keep doing things that suggest he's going to clean the place out someday, pulling everyone up on their feet alive?

Close up the earth and open up the Heavens

If you can come into this passage with the understanding that he’s speaking about a dimensional concept and not a physical one, it all makes perfect sense. And the key to this whole thing is actually a few verses back in verse 22. Technically, it’s all through the entire book and it’s also very in-depth through this whole chapter. Paul is trying to get the reader to see the difference between seeing with physical eyes (the first Adam) and seeing through the eyes of the spirit (the second Adam). In verse 22 he simply sums it all up in one sentence.
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

The Combination Unlocking the Door of Understanding
I’m so excited over this! This is a huge key to learning patterns. Paul is setting the form in which to pour the mold. The form is, Adam represents carnal understanding. This is the heading that traditions of men, religion, denominationalism, law, they all fall under this kind of thinking. They are trying to take spiritual concepts and make them fit our carnal or physical understanding. You simply can’t mix oil with water. That picture alone, oil and water, speaks volumes in and of itself. In Scripture, we see where water represents 1st dimensional learnings. The bronze (judgment) laver represents water baptism. It was in the outer court. The outer court is 1st dimension, it’s living in a tangible world versus a spiritual one. Being water baptized is the physical manifestation of a spiritual changing of the guard. The laver represents water baptism just as the altar of sacrifice represents initial salvation, the removal of sin.

The key here is not to ignore the importance of the baptism. This is not what I’m saying at all. But what I’m saying is, it’s simply the first steps leading to a deeper place in my relationship with Christ. It’s not the emphasis, nor is it the final destination. It’s merely a step of many of the process that leads to spiritual maturity as well as an intimate understanding of Christ.

Willing Spirit, Weak Flesh
It’s the first steps of an infant believer. But even there you see spiritual symbolism and the church seems to have an easier time accepting that. The going down represents us spiritually dying to our sin and the coming up represents us being spiritually resurrected in the power of Christ. All the old is washed away by the blood of the lamb and all things become new. We get that, we understand that. But then when it comes time for our spirits to grow into deeper understanding, we get bogged down because we’ve still got a lot of the old Adam in us yet.

Adam - vs. - Jesus
Our Adam-based minds struggle in Christ-based thinking. But in verse 22, Paul sets the form by stating that for us to understand the words of Christ, we have to let go of our Adam way of thinking. So, Adam represents carnal, flesh, physical, and Christ represents heavenly, spiritual, and dimensional. So, in the Adam way of thinking, we all eventually die because Jesus said without him, we will perish. But . . .as verse 22 states, with Christ, comes everlasting life.

Romans says the wages of sin (Adam-mentality) is death, but the gift of God (Jesus) is eternal life. It’s there, clearly and in black and white. We just need to learn to read in the spirit rather than in the flesh and that’s what Paul is trying to teach here about us baptizing ourselves on behalf of the dead. He’s not speaking of the physically dead as much as he is the spiritual dead. How do we know this? Because the rest of the entire chapter is all on the spiritual side of understanding and not the physical.

Wolf With Sheep’s Clothing
The thing that is so disarming is that the church in general is not in obvious rebellion or defiance of Christ. In fact, it seems to be the opposite. Most any church around that you attend will tell you plainly that we want to walk in God’s will. We sing songs about where ever he leads us, that’s where we’ll follow. We’ll go with him all the way. We get so caught up in ourselves that we get a bit distracted by the subtle piousness we’ve created and as a result, our growth in Christ is affected by it.

We’re not obvious about it. We never compare the Pharisees to ourselves because they are cold and hard about their beliefs that it’s easy to recognize. But the enemy has evolved in our educated country and he isn’t as obvious in our church as he appeared to be in Jesus day, but on the other hand, he doesn’t need to be so obvious because that would blow his cover. As long as he can come and go as he pleases through the back door, why make waves? So, we’re fooled into thinking that we’re so holy because we openly declare our desire to follow Jesus. But here’s the kicker, why then, is the church so blind to spiritual understanding? Somewhere, somebody is being fooled.

Matthew 8
18 Now when Jesus saw a crowd around Him, He gave orders to depart to the other side of the sea. 19Then a scribe came and said to Him, "Teacher, I will follow You wherever You go." 20 Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head." 23 When He got into the boat, His disciples followed Him. 24 And behold, there arose a great storm on the sea, so that the boat was being covered with the waves; but Jesus Himself was asleep. 25 And they came to Him and woke Him, saying, Save us, Lord; we are perishing!" 26 He said to them, "Why are you afraid, you men of little faith?" Then He got up and rebuked the winds and the sea, and it became perfectly calm. 27 The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?"

Counting the Costs
Do we really understand the old hymn, “Where He Leads Me I Will Follow?” This disciple was portraying that hymn and Jesus response to him was, “If you follow me, you need to realize that the animals are treated with better accommodations than I am. Are you really ready for that kind of commitment?” Most would think that Jesus would have applauded such an attitude, but Jesus wasn’t looking for someone asking for attention, which is really what this guy is doing, but he’s looking for commitment. Understand who it is that’s coming to Jesus. A scribe is one in the same mindset as the Pharisees. He was a man of religion and Jesus was asking for relationship.

Next, we see another spiritual lesson, which is why this reference is so powerful to what we were speaking about in 1 Corinthians. It is here that we see reference to the dead.

21 Another of the disciples said to Him, "Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father." 22 But Jesus said to him, " Follow Me, and allow the dead to bury their own dead."

To BE is to THINK
It is here where it all ties in together. Jesus speaks ALWAYS from a Spiritual point of view. So, if we are to “BE” like Christ (Christians) we need to “THINK” like Christ. Everything he said, thought, and did was for a spiritual purpose. For that reason, we need to start doing the same if we claim we’re followers of Christ. To state the dead will bury the dead is not a physical statement but a spiritual one. Let the spiritual dead take care of their own. The main focus for us is to release the power of life through prayer, worship, testimonies and actions with the foundation of love.

I was going to delete the rest of this chapter, but it has so much in it that is quite powerful, I’m leaving it in here. Verse 34 is a strong challenge to the modern day Christian that we all need to take into serious consideration.

Matthew 8
30And why do you think I keep risking my neck in this dangerous work? 31I look death in the face practically every day I live. Do you think I'd do this if I wasn't convinced of your resurrection and mine as guaranteed by the resurrected Messiah Jesus? 32Do you think I was just trying to act heroic when I fought the wild beasts at Ephesus, hoping it wouldn't be the end of me? Not on your life! It's resurrection, resurrection, always resurrection, that undergirds what I do and say, the way I live. If there's no resurrection, "We eat, we drink, the next day we die," and that's all there is to it. 33But don't fool yourselves. Don't let yourselves be poisoned by this anti-resurrection loose talk. "Bad company ruins good manners."
34Think straight. Awaken to the holiness of life. No more playing fast and loose with resurrection facts. Ignorance of God is a luxury you can't afford in times like these. Aren't you embarrassed that you've let this kind of thing go on as long as you have?
35Some skeptic is sure to ask, "Show me how resurrection works. Give me a diagram; draw me a picture. What does this resurrection body' look like?" 36If you look at this question closely, you realize how absurd it is. There are no diagrams for this kind of thing. 37We do have a parallel experience in gardening. You plant a "dead" seed; soon there is a flourishing plant. There is no visual likeness between seed and plant. 38You could never guess what a tomato would look like by looking at a tomato seed. What we plant in the soil and what grows out of it don't look anything alike. The dead body that we bury in the ground and the resurrection body that comes from it will be dramatically different. 39You will notice that the variety of bodies is stunning. Just as there are different kinds of seeds, there are different kinds of bodies--humans, animals, birds, fish--each unprecedented in its form. 40You get a hint at the diversity of resurrection glory by looking at the diversity of bodies not only on earth but in the skies-- 40sun, moon, stars--all these varieties of beauty and brightness. And we're only looking at pre-resurrection "seeds"--who can imagine what the resurrection "plants" will be like!

42This image of planting a dead seed and raising a live plant is a mere sketch at best, but perhaps it will help in approaching the mystery of the resurrection body--but only if you keep in mind that when we're raised, we're raised for good, alive forever! 43The corpse that's planted is no beauty, but when it's raised, it's glorious. Put in the ground weak, it comes up powerful. 44The seed sown is natural; the seed grown is supernatural--same seed, same body, but what a difference from when it goes down in physical mortality to when it is raised up in spiritual immortality!

45We follow this sequence in Scripture: The First Adam received life, the Last Adam is a life-giving Spirit. 46Physical life comes first, then spiritual-- 47a firm base shaped from the earth, a final completion coming out of heaven. 48The First Man was made out of earth, and people since then are earthy; the Second Man was made out of heaven, and people now can be heavenly. 49In the same way that we've worked from our earthy origins, let's embrace our heavenly ends. 50I need to emphasize, friends, that our natural, earthy lives don't in themselves lead us by their very nature into the kingdom of God. Their very "nature" is to die, so how could they "naturally" end up in the Life kingdom? 51But let me tell you something wonderful, a mystery I'll probably never fully understand. We're not all going to die--but we are all going to be changed. 52You hear a blast to end all blasts from a trumpet, and in the time that you look up and blink your eyes--it's over. On signal from that trumpet from heaven, the dead will be up and out of their graves, beyond the reach of death, never to die again. At the same moment and in the same way, we'll all be changed. 53In the resurrection scheme of things, this has to happen: everything perishable taken off the shelves and replaced by the imperishable, this mortal replaced by the immortal. 54Then the saying will come true:

Death swallowed by triumphant Life!55Who got the last word, oh, Death? Oh, Death, who's afraid of you now? 56It was sin that made death so frightening and law-code guilt that gave sin its leverage, its destructive power. 57But now in a single victorious stroke of Life, all three--sin, guilt, death--are gone, the gift of our Master, Jesus Christ. Thank God!
58With all this going for us, my dear, dear friends, stand your ground. And don't hold back. Throw yourselves into the work of the Master, confident that nothing you do for him is a waste of time or effort

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Back to the original Plan
So, we’re back to the stars, the name of the star in Revelation is wormwood. Wormwood is a bitter tasting herb. It actually means bitterness. It’s root word means curse. In Deuteronomy 29:18 we see the first time it’s used in Scripture.

Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go [and] serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood

Wormwood = Bitterness
It’s implying here in Revelation then that it’s bitterness from God’s judgement. The star that falls from heaven has to do with Israel and their destruction. God had promised Abraham’s seed to be multiplied as the sands on the sea. Which actually has obviously happened many times over, but again, understand it’s not the physical that we’re to focus on but the spiritual. And because the spiritual representatives of the physical Israel, being the priests, because they rejected Jesus as the Messiah and God’s Son, they openly chose to rebel against God’s call and this was the result. The judgement that came was bitterness.

It was bitter for them to swallow such harsh conditions, and it was bitter to God to receive their contempt toward him and it was also bitter for him to allow the judgement to come. God didn’t want to have them experience this. His love is truly a love that surpasses all understanding and it’s unconditional. He loves us regardless as to whether we return that love. But that doesn’t mean we’re protected from harm. If we reject his love, we reject his protection and set ourselves up for a life of pain and suffering. It’s simply the result of cause and affect. We are affected by judgement as a result of our rejection toward his love.

When Moses cut down a tree at Morah and through it into the water because it was bitter and couldn’t be used. The tree was a type of Christ who was cut down because of the bitterness of the law that had been perverted to where it could no longer be digested by those who wanted to please God. Men had turned what was originally God’s framework to allow man to be cleansed from their sin, be it temporary for a time, but the priests took God’s plan and turned it into profit for themselves. Bitterness will always be the fruit of selfish gain.

Psalm 22 speaks about Jesus as a worm. He took this lowly helpless form of a human, a worm that if stepped on won’t strike out and bite back like a serpent, but like a worm, was smashed. But Jesus took our wormness to the cross. Took the bitterness. And released it never again to be carried on our backs again.

The Darkened Sun
Where else in Scripture have we seen the sun darkened? Remember we’re speaking spiritually. It states a third part of the sun, what is that referring to? God is in three dimensions. He’s a three dimensional God. There are three parts that make us up. Our body, soul, and spirit. Scripture says we were created after God’s own image. We’re three dimensional because our creator is three dimensional. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. So when we see a third of the sun is darkened, we can then understand that to mean, 1/3 of what we call the trinity, was darkened. That makes it easy to see what that’s referring to. It’s when Jesus was crucified.

Rev 8:12
And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise

What happens on the fourth day of creation?
The sun, moon, and the stars were made on the fourth day. Fourth trumpet ties in with the fourth day. God’s doing away with the old creation and he’s bringing in the new creation. Luke 21 speaks about the signs of the Lord would be the signs of the sun, moon and stars. This isn’t referring to physically.

Age of Darkness
We refer to a period of time in church history as the dark ages. Why? Because there was no spiritual revelation of Jesus going on. You couldn’t even have a Bible. The majority of men couldn’t even read. The only people that could read was the priesthood. The religious system. Babylon controlled it all. The reason why we now are hearing the voice of the Lord is because many are getting the Word into their hearts which increases their faith and allows God to work through them effectively.

During the dark ages, the sun was darkened, the antichrist blocked the glory of the sun from reflecting but the moon has been gradually cycling until it becomes a full moon again. That is speaking about the church. When we look up at the sky and see the moon in it’s progressing phases and we understand that it has something to do with the earths rotation and positioning and such. But then we see in Psalms where it says let the heavens declare God’s glory!

Get Over Sight, Get Into Faith
Again, understanding that we are spirits living in a physical body and God is a spirit living in a spiritual realm, we simply “have” to get to that place where we can let go of our carnal, or physical understanding and allow the Holy Spirit to plant these deep patterns of God into our spirits without our minds getting in the way and trying to filter spiritual understanding to fit human interpretation. So, when we see these spiritual pictures, we have to let go of the physical and grasp on to the Spiritual. They are really the same as what Jesus had when he spoke. They are parables, analogies using tangible objects, such as sun, moon, stars, etc.

So when we see in Psalms 19 says “Let the heavens declare his Glory” it’s not just saying take a step outside and look at the stars and see God’s glory through them. No, it’s stating the heavens are “declaring” they are vocalizing the glory of God. They scream at you prophetically the glory of God.

Luke 22
20"When you see soldiers camped all around Jerusalem, then you'll know that she is about to be devastated. 21If you're living in Judea at the time, run for the hills. If you're in the city, get out quickly. If you're out in the fields, don't go home to get your coat. 22This is Vengeance Day--everything written about it will come to a head. 23Pregnant and nursing mothers will have it especially hard. Incredible misery! Torrential rage! 24People dropping like flies; people dragged off to prisons; Jerusalem under the boot of barbarians until the nations finish what was given them to do. 25"It will seem like all hell has broken loose--sun, moon, stars, earth, sea, 26in an uproar and everyone all over the world in a panic, the wind knocked out of them by the threat of doom, the powers-that-be quaking. 27"And then--then!-they'll see the Son of Man welcomed in grand style--a glorious welcome! 28When all this starts to happen, up on your feet. Stand tall with your heads high. Help is on the way!"

Psalm 22
A David psalm
1God, God . . . my God! Why did you dump me miles from nowhere? 2Doubled up with pain, I call to God all the day long. No answer. Nothing. I keep at it all night, tossing and turning. 3And you! Are you indifferent, above it all, leaning back on the cushions of Israel's praise? 4We know you were there for our parents: 5they cried for your help and you gave it; they trusted and lived a good life. 6And here I am, a nothing--an earthworm, something to step on, to squash. 7Everyone pokes fun at me; they make faces at me, they shake their heads: 8"Let's see how GOD handles this one; since God likes him so much, let him help him!" 9And to think you were midwife at my birth, setting me at my mother's breasts! 10When I left the womb you cradled me; since the moment of birth you've been my God. 11Then you moved far away and trouble moved in next-door. I need a neighbor. 12Herds of bulls come at me, the raging bulls stampede, 13Horns lowered, nostrils flaring, like a herd of buffalo on the move. 14I'm a bucket kicked over and spilled, every joint in my body has been pulled apart. My heart is a blob of melted wax in my gut. 15I'm dry as a bone, my tongue black and wollen. They have laid me out for burial in the dirt. 16Now packs of wild dogs come at me; thugs gang up on me. They pin me down hand and foot, 17and lock me in a cage--a bag Of bones in a cage, stared at by every passerby. 18They take my wallet and the shirt off my back, and then throw dice for my clothes. 19You, GOD-don't put off my rescue! Hurry and help me! 20Don't let them cut my throat; don't let those mongrels devour me. 21If you don't show up soon, I'm done for--gored by the bulls, meat for the lions. 22Here's the story I'll tell my friends when they come to worship, and punctuate it with Hallelujahs: 23Shout Hallelujah, you God--worshipers; give glory, you sons of Jacob; adore him, you daughters of Israel. 24He has never let you down, never looked the other way when you were being kicked around. He has never wandered off to do his own thing;
he has been right there, listening. 25Here in this great gathering for worship I have discovered this praise--life. And I'll do what I promised right here in front of the God--worshipers. 26Down-and-outers sit at GOD's table and eat their fill. Everyone on the hunt for God is here, praising him. "Live it up, from head to toe. Don't ever quit!" 27From the four corners of the earth people are coming to their senses, are running back to GOD. Long-lost families are falling on their faces before him. 28GOD has taken charge; from now on he has the last word. 29All the power-mongers are before him -worshiping! All the poor and powerless, too -worshiping! Along with those who never got it together -worshiping! 30Our children and their children will get in on this As the word is passed along from parent to child. 31Babies not yet conceived will hear the good news-- that God does what he says.

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